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    Quote[/b] (TheAlphaWolf @ Feb. 17 2005,2:20)]and how do you explain the use of the brain for the same thing? if it was cultural then both males and females would use the same areas of the brain for the same purposes but they don't.
    the brain develops differnt because of the cultural roles that males and female begin to learn from a very early age. The studies you are talking about were all done on westerners, which affects the way they think. I has been shown that the parts of the brain that are used more develop more than those that are not.
    Also if its genetic how can you explain the fact that either sex can be taught to do exactly what the other can in terms of mental abilities, and thought processes?
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    Quote[/b] ]Also if its genetic how can you explain the fact that either sex can be taught to do exactly what the other can in terms of mental abilities, and thought processes?
    because we can learn. You can teach anyone to do math but it's easier for some people than for others. and i'm not talking about differences that are HUGE. men aren't brainless idiots who can't talk and women aren't brainless idiots who get lost in their own house.
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    Quote[/b] ]the brain develops differnt because of the cultural roles that males and female begin to learn from a very early age
    The differences I'm talking about are things like recognizing faces. men and women use different areas of the brain to recognize faces. How can it be cultural? people aren't taught to recognize faces differently. nor is there anything culturally that would cause them to...
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    and like john and I pointed out, at least one of the studies was made on toddlers who couldn't even talk. (that's why they cried... the ones that did). They're young and don't have preconcieved notions about how they should behave. It's no coincidence that babies act according to the "stereotypes" or is that not proof? what kind of proof do you need now?
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    oh... and someone said something about bats having better eyesight than humans? I'd be interested to know where you got that from... and what bats you mean (diurnal/noctural)
    and... holy cow I hadn't noticed that the CNN article is recent! It's so creepy how there are periods of time when certain themes occur... like with the evolution... I was debating evolution in three sites at once. Then with racism, I had chosen to do a paper (still doing it darn it... nothing to do with black history month by the way) and that comes up. then gender differences pop up in my myth thread, another site, and the study about the brain comes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (TheAlphaWolf @ Feb. 17 2005,2:50)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Also if its genetic how can you explain the fact that either sex can be taught to do exactly what the other can in terms of mental abilities, and thought processes?
    because we can learn. You can teach anyone to do math but it's easier for some people than for others. and i'm not talking about differences that are HUGE. men aren't brainless idiots who can't talk and women aren't brainless idiots who get lost in their own house.
    Thank you for re-enforcing my point that they are learned behaviors.

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    Quote[/b] ]the brain develops differnt because of the cultural roles that males and female begin to learn from a very early age
    The differences I'm talking about are things like recognizing faces. men and women use different areas of the brain to recognize faces. How can it be cultural? people aren't taught to recognize faces differently. nor is there anything culturally that would cause them to...
    The face study i have never heard about, the studies i know of that were published involved things like spacial relations, ability to listen to multiple stories at once, ability to navigate(which they found was done differntly by men and women not that either was better or worse at it) and a few other mental tasks. If i you have source to site for this information i would like to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (TheAlphaWolf @ Feb. 17 2005,2:53)]and like john and I pointed out, at least one of the studies was made on toddlers who couldn't even talk. (that's why they cried... the ones that did). They're young and don't have preconcieved notions about how they should behave. It's no coincidence that babies act according to the "stereotypes" or is that not proof? what kind of proof do you need now?
    different responses to child by parents. it has been shown in western nations that boys as they grow older get a differnt response from their parents for crying than girls do. Children learn from the minute they are born(some say earlier, but im not gonna go into that) you make it sound like they dont start learning until they start to talk, in which case it must just all of a sudden pop into a child head "oh, this is how to talk".

    and im not trying to say that the difference is totally cultural either, but im saying that culture has a huge influnce on people. it is probably a some of both cultural and biological, and neither can be counted out.
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    don't really feel like reading through four pages of re's, so here is the one myth that I hate...talking on a cell phone while pumping gas can and will make an explosion occur...yeah, some people will believe anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Infants have been shown to have differences in behavior at a young and tender age, preceding much environmental influence. One study reported that the least sensitive female infant may be more sensitive than even the most sensitive male. Female infants appear more sensitive to noise and are also more social. "They are more inclined to "gurgle" at people and to recognize familiar faces than baby boys" (8). The behavioral differences between infants of different sexes appear very early in life, indicating that the mechanism controlling these behavioral patterns is innate and not learned from society.
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    "random" site- http://www.womens-health.org/hs/facts_brain.htm
    hmm.. I had never heard of the ability to listen to multiple stories at once study.

    I can't find the link right now... I'll post it later
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