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    I am ...shocked. I knew him from his posts, and may have corresponded with him in the past.
    I will have to read all of this later. So sad, so sad.

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    Quote[/b] (TheAlphaWolf @ Mar. 14 2005,9:20)]
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    Quote[/b] ]if you want to BAN (lol you prolly meant this) drugs, your BLAMING what drugs can do to people, ie BLAMING the DRUGS.
    eerr.. yeah I did mean ban LOL
    I don't blame drugs either. I blame the people who take them for being stupid. but ok, maybe that wasn't the best analogy. That's why i had two lol.
    and what about nuclear weapons? do you blame the nuclear weapons or the people that use them? yet you want them banned don't you?
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    Quote[/b] ]You're right. They don't. It's the dumb person who decides to pull the trigger.
    I don't think anyone but the people who just want to bash gun control people said anything about the gun being to blame.

    by the way... one thing is gun CONTROL and the other is a complete ban on guns. I'm for gun control, NOT banning all guns/weapons. Nobody needs a machine gun for "protection" if you ask me. Neither does each person in the house need 50 guns. the only reason for those kinds of things is to kill as many people as you can in the shortest period of time that you can. same with concealed weapons. If you want it for defense, showing it off is more effective than hiding it.
    I'll debate on firearms only through PM. I know how it always turns out [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif[/img]

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    To bad about the shooting...I am not sure if I ever recall him on the terra forums. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img] What was his name here?
    \"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.\"
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]To bad about the shooting...I am not sure if I ever recall him on the terra forums. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img] What was his name here?
    I'm not sure if he was a member here. If he was I don't know his name. He was a member of the ICPS and the CP listserv.

    Maybe there is a way to enter his email and see if a name pops up here.

    This is the last post I'm going to make about gun control, If anybody wants to debate what I'm saying do it in a pm.
    Alphawolf, I don't know what is so hard to understand about what I said. It was like an analogy, it's not really meant to be taken literally. It's not like I'm saying that somebody thinks the gun shot somebody by itself. It's more of a saying than actual fact. The English language is full of sayings like that. Somebody that thinks guns are the root cause for shootings and if you ban guns all the crime and violence will go away, is the same thing as saying they blame guns for the violence. The reason why you can't see that is beyond me. Maybe you're just too young to understand the difference. If somebody blewup a nuclear bomb in NY city, I wouldn't blame the bomb, I'd blame the group behind the attack and the person that set off the bomb.
    Larry the cable guy said it best when he said that blaming guns for violence is the same as blaming my pencil for misspelled words.




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    I am glad that pft forum do not have any wacko's besides...uh nevermind. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif[/img]

    I am not going to defend myself with a butter knife. Making more gun laws only prevent the law biting citizens from owning guns. Washington DC has the highest crime rate in the US because they have so many gun laws. A good book to read is More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun-Control Laws by John R. Lott Jr.
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    Quote[/b] ]I can confirm Terry Ratzmann of New Berlin, Wisconsin, was a member of
    the ICPS.

    -- John Brittnacher

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    The last time concealed carry came to a vote in Illinois, it missed by one lousy vote. I, for one, look forward to the day we have this. The decrease in crime experienced after this becomes a reality will be irrefutable.

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    Well I think the we can end all the questioning about this.

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    Quote[/b] ]Ratzmann lived with his mother and sister in New Berlin, Wis., police say.
    This is from an article at http://www.cbc.ca/story....13.html

    I am now sadly 100% sure that it's the same guy.

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    'may have been angry about a sermon given two weeks ago'

    wonder what made him THAT mad?

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