I'll debate on firearms only through PM. I know how it always turns out[b said:Quote[/b] (TheAlphaWolf @ Mar. 14 2005,9:20)]eerr.. yeah I did mean ban LOL[b said:Quote[/b] ]if you want to BAN (lol you prolly meant this) drugs, your BLAMING what drugs can do to people, ie BLAMING the DRUGS.
I don't blame drugs either. I blame the people who take them for being stupid. but ok, maybe that wasn't the best analogy. That's why i had two lol.
and what about nuclear weapons? do you blame the nuclear weapons or the people that use them? yet you want them banned don't you?
I don't think anyone but the people who just want to bash gun control people said anything about the gun being to blame.[b said:Quote[/b] ]You're right. They don't. It's the dumb person who decides to pull the trigger.
by the way... one thing is gun CONTROL and the other is a complete ban on guns. I'm for gun control, NOT banning all guns/weapons. Nobody needs a machine gun for "protection" if you ask me. Neither does each person in the house need 50 guns. the only reason for those kinds of things is to kill as many people as you can in the shortest period of time that you can. same with concealed weapons. If you want it for defense, showing it off is more effective than hiding it.
I'm not sure if he was a member here. If he was I don't know his name. He was a member of the ICPS and the CP listserv.[b said:Quote[/b] ]To bad about the shooting...I am not sure if I ever recall him on the terra forums.What was his name here?
[b said:Quote[/b] ]I can confirm Terry Ratzmann of New Berlin, Wisconsin, was a member of
the ICPS.
-- John Brittnacher
International Carnivorous Plant Society
http://www.carnivorousplants.org/
[b said:Quote[/b] ]Ratzmann lived with his mother and sister in New Berlin, Wis., police say.
Thats what I'm really waiting to hear also.[b said:Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Mar. 14 2005,10:41)]'may have been angry about a sermon given two weeks ago'
wonder what made him THAT mad?
I love this line.. seems like adults like to fall back on it.[b said:Quote[/b] (0zzy @ Mar. 14 2005,4:30)]Maybe you're just too young to understand the difference.
You are basically agreeing with Luis.. so why are you arguing?[b said:Quote[/b] (0zzy @ Mar. 14 2005,4:30)]If somebody blewup a nuclear bomb in NY city, I wouldn't blame the bomb, I'd blame the group behind the attack and the person that set off the bomb.