she pinions them. That's fine, as long as they are house birds, LOL! But what they really are is fat parrots, LOL! My friend Barb has an african grey named Festus(fat!) that has the roam of the whole house. And she has cats and dogs, too. The cats and dogs will mess with Festus exactly once....Then they learn(the hard and painful way)not to bother him again! He may not be able to fly, but Festus can climb/walk/run anywhere! He will climb all new people and explore their ear-lobes, noses and mouth, if you will let him, with his beak. Maybe their hair, too. It takes quite a bit of intestinal fortitude to sit still while Festus works you over.