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Thread: Nice evolution controversy article

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    This reminds me of Existentialism. BTW, how do I know that I am truly participating in a carnivorous plant discussion forum with people halfway around the world?

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    Huh? What sounds like Existentialism?

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    The banter about scientific theory.

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    Perhaps you could elaborate jimscott, calling what I thought was a friendly debate 'banter' really doesn't give me much to go on.

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    You know... one person sees blue and another sees green and you can't prove that one's blue is really the other's green, because maybe she is also seeing blue and you can't prove that each is perceiving the same thing. Kinda like deceiving Professor Moriarty on the hollodeck.

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    Relying on the five senses when an argument is made goes a long way towards allievating these issues. Unless of course, one is colorblind. That's why science relies on observation, all the instrumentation one finds lying around a lab is there to provide the user with a observable 'readout' for example.

    To take a page from the real world: a researcher hypothesizes that some types of dinosaurs share a common ancestor with birds. By providing actual fossils of animals sharing bird-like and dinosaur-like features, which can be observed (in this case by the naked eye, or perhaps through microscopes), the hypothesis is supported.

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    And of course the obvious rhetorical question is, "How does one know that one's observations are perceiving some sort of reality?"

    Anyways, I'm sure you have read that I work in an environmental laboratory. Do you do the same or similar?

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    Jimscott, I don't understand that argument at all.

    I mean, if I say that the sky is blue (which is occasionally true in the UK), all I mean is that I call light of a particular wavelength 'blue'. As I've yet to hear anyone tell me that the sky is green, I believe that most people agree with me.

    Do you mean that what I see as blue someone else might see as green? If so, I think were moving back into FSM/IPU territory.....

    T.

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