thanks for your answer Mass,i have done some more reading about tuberous dews and does the short recommended light period not pose a problem to you when growing it alongside other plants ,i read they only need 8 to 10 hours light,and i thought you might have problems as the temp was recommended to be low in the growing season,i would rather listen to your experence than reading loads of care guides,have you managed to change their dormancy cycles before because the ones i can get here are still on ozzy time too