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Unidentified Nepenthes

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kath

Katherine
Here are some photos of my Nepenthes, which is currently unidentified, if anyone knows what species it is?

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Welcome to terraforums! I think you've already gotten some good answers to the bottom most plant in your other thread.

The middle redish pitcher is N. x ventrata (a hybrid between N. ventricosa and N. alata).

I also moved this to the Identify that Plant! forum.

xvart.
 
I'm now very good at IDing plants, but the red one looks like the ventaras Ive scene.???
 
Um...It's all the SAME plant. Which is what's confusing me!!!! Every photo is of the one plant. The reddish pithcer is a new one, and they turn green when they age, until they just have a reddish brown tinge in some places caused by the pigmentation!
So far I've had an expert opinion of it being a N.Tentaculata, but I don't know if that's right, becaus ehe didn't see a photo, I've thought it could be N.Alata, but really not sure, and some, only some of it's pithcers look like N.Ventrata. Help, is there any key distinguishing features?
 
Oh, and also opinions of it being; N.Ventricosa, N.'Judith Finn' and N.Sanguiana...Oh dear...
 
ventrata or ventrata x alata. That is no tentaculata, sanguinea, or judith finn. I've grown them all (except tentaculata), but your plant doesn't look anything like any of those.
 
THANKYOU! A definite answer. I will go research those two and check. Thankyou so much!
 
Mike: The one photo had both a Ventrata (on right) and Judith Finn (left).
 
  • #10
erm, she just said
they are all the same plant.
but i second phissionkorps
 
  • #11
leaf structure says Ventrata. not ventricosa. ventricosa leaves are more strap like. just to make an extra clarification. even if its not ventratra and is ventricosa....its not gonna die! :)

Alex
 
  • #12
Looks like it could also be N. Madagascariensis.
Good Luck ID'ing your plant,
Adrian
 
  • #13
Just a note: The red pitcher is in fact a new young pitcher, and they turn greener when they get older, but are beginning to mantain the red pigmentation.
Now my next question-is it an N.Ventrata, or some form of N.Alata. I can't tell, but from photo evidenc eboth N.Ventrata and N.Alata resemble this plant, is there any key feature for either plant?
 
  • #14
Looks like it could also be N. Madagascariensis.
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Nein. Madagascariensis is much different.

kath,
Personally, I think it looks like ventrata, but the wings being so pronounced on more mature pitchers (pic 4) makes me wanna say ventrata x alata just to be safe. Chances are that it is just a ventrata though. Def not a pure alata.
is there any key feature for either plant?
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There are many different forms of alata (blame the taxonomists) and it depends on which form you're talking about. Alata tends to have wings, but in the "boschiana mimic" form, they are more reduced in comparison to other alata forms. Alata comes in a variety of shapes and colors, while ventrata is (almost) always pink/red/green (some oranges in F2 versions), has a more ventricosa-like peristome, and is more ventricose than alata.
 
  • #15
wow this is really useful I have a similar looking plant sold to me as N alata. I think its really hard to get Nepenthes in New Zealand so maybe the plants here are all inbreeds?
 
  • #16
lol not a madagascariensis
i have one.
but it looks like an N. Ventrata x Alata. or possibly just an N. Alata
 
  • #17
Pretty soon it is going to be like oprchids. Once you have an unknown it stays an unknown because there are so many hybrid out there that look similar. I say just leave it an unknown, because if by the off chance it is viable and you breed with it your not going to know for sure what you have in the end. Atleast that is my opinion. Many may not feel that way.
 
  • #18
nepenthes vntricosa mine looks just like that the pitchers, soon to be pitchers, leaves etc
 
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