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    Quote Originally Posted by fredg View Post
    Which seed did you purchase and what treatment did you give them before you sowed?

    In habitat seedlings have exactly the same conditions as the mature plants.

    Dormancy is a perfectly natural state for plants, it's nothing to be afraid of. Your east window is an unknown for climate, we would require more information to give a reasonable answer.

    I bought 25 seeds of each;
    Thread Leaf sundew
    Red Thread Leaf sundew
    Alice's Sundew
    Round leaf sundew
    White top Pitcher
    Cobra Lily
    Yellow Pitcher
    purple Pitcher
    Hooded Pitcher
    Venus Fly Trap
    And of course you know about the Cape Sundew (which 14 germinated) and I killed.
    I did, no stratification, I just sowed them 3 or 4 days after they showed up.
    oh and I used Josh Frogs CP soil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post
    Carnivorous seed are easy to grow, they just require particular care. Experience with other plants is helpful but does not necessarily directly translate. A lot of common practices in gardening are not needed or are harmful to carnivorous plants. Some of the issues that you faced are easily explainable. The very low germination you saw is probably due to old seed. This is likely if you got your seed online. Adding to that some species require additional treatment to prime them for germination. As for all your seedlings dying you did put them into the sun. At that size it doesn't take much to fry them. Acclimation is important.
    That is why I joined this forum to learn from the people who know best.
    I had pitcher plants when I lived in Wallkill 12 years ago and I had a venus fly trap when I was a kid.
    it looks like I have a pitcher plant that germinated, maybe in the next few weeks more might start to pop up?

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    More questions I'm afraid.

    When did you sow them?
    What is your water regime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobious View Post
    I bought 25 seeds of each;
    Thread Leaf sundew
    Red Thread Leaf sundew
    Alice's Sundew
    Round leaf sundew
    White top Pitcher
    Cobra Lily
    Yellow Pitcher
    purple Pitcher
    Hooded Pitcher
    Venus Fly Trap
    And of course you know about the Cape Sundew (which 14 germinated) and I killed.
    I did, no stratification, I just sowed them 3 or 4 days after they showed up.
    oh and I used Josh Frogs CP soil
    Of those that you ordered the round leaf sundew, white top pitcher, cobra lily, yellow pitcher, purple pitcher, and hooded pitcher all require pretreatment of the seed. Specifically, they need a cold, wet period call stratification that simulates winter. This primes the seed for germination. Without it you'll have much lower germination rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post
    Of those that you ordered the round leaf sundew, white top pitcher, cobra lily, yellow pitcher, purple pitcher, and hooded pitcher all require pretreatment of the seed. Specifically, they need a cold, wet period call stratification that simulates winter. This primes the seed for germination. Without it you'll have much lower germination rates.
    Ok I thought they dropped their seeds in the spring like the VFT So those must drop their seeds in the fall?
    So if I keep them wet and put them in the garage this winter and back outside in the spring, do you think I might get some more to germinate or will they be to old?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredg View Post
    More questions I'm afraid.

    When did you sow them?
    What is your water regime?
    I sowed them in Feb. and while they were in the house I keep them in 1/2 inch pan of distilled water and now that they are outside I use distilled water in between the rain storms, they never dry out.

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    As GM says, many of those seeds would be better with stratification. You may still get germination with unstratified fresh seed but that may be sporradic at best.

    I'd aim for a higher water level than you have. A couple of inches would be nearer the mark. Remember these seeds in habitat will be germinating when there's plenty of water in the ground (spring).

    Interesting that you say VFTs drop their seed in spring. I always harvest and sow mine in autumn (fall). They're still in full flower at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredg View Post
    As GM says, many of those seeds would be better with stratification. You may still get germination with unstratified fresh seed but that may be sporradic at best.

    I'd aim for a higher water level than you have. A couple of inches would be nearer the mark. Remember these seeds in habitat will be germinating when there's plenty of water in the ground (spring).

    Interesting that you say VFTs drop their seed in spring. I always harvest and sow mine in autumn (fall). They're still in full flower at the moment.
    I had read on another site that the VFT's drop their seeds in the spring. I can tell you one thing for sure and that is that a lot of these so called experts are not very reliable. That is why I joined this forum to learn from people with first hand experience.
    Last edited by Mobious; 08-01-2018 at 03:00 PM.

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