I guess you are right, Zak. So we need to fill positions, secure our website for Members info and gathering together, and folks to put up some time and energy. I won't beg or plead. I will say, now is the time. I will be glad to be on the growers board, even take the reins if need be. Who else will step up? We are looking for those who are willing to try to lead and guide us through our start. I am one. Zak is PR man, and PAK? Ozzy? Noah? Wesley? PDX? Imduff? SarraceniaO? Sarraceniaobsessed? Jimscott? NepG? Colieo? Finch? Ready to hear from you all. Schloaty, PM me. I will write Carl Mazur again for a website building update. Copper is looking into a chatroom for all of us to gather in and organize ourselves. Casper is unavailable, so we have to work around that. OK?? I work this Saturday, so Saturday after 5:30 PM PST I am available for chat. Sunday is open, so far. Copper, keep us updated on the Chatroom, and when. Thanks everyone! Think about it, and get back to us soon. Winter is a great time to organize, and grow out seedlings. And that is just what I am doing. CP 12 months out of the year. YAY!!!!!!