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Cephalotus growing on some Driftwood
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Thought I'd post an update, a few months after the first post I lost one of the 3 on the wall. It just collasped for no good reason. It has not regrown and with so much humidity and moisture there is not much left of the plant anymore, so it is a complete loss.
The other two have atleast doubled in size since the last picture. I can't say anything for the long term success of this but its working ok for me in the short term, your mileage will probably vary.
I'm growing another Cephalotus on a piece of driftwood more successfully here http://www.orchidboard.com/communit...dd-little-vivarium-project-micro-minis-3.html The Cephalotus was added as an after thought, one of those...were do I put this piece things. Should be updating that thread today with a better Cephalotus picture, not that the orchid people care about that
. That Cephalotus is approx. 2" from 2 T5HO bulbs and just sitting on a piece of driftwood, its gets all its water from the wicking of the driftwood. That piece is not as wet and that Cephalotus seems to like that amount of water much better, although to be fair the original division was much larger and that may have alot more to do with it, and it gets ALOT more light, less humidity, hotter temps.
If you look closely to the right you can see some Utricularia graminifolia with a few bladders
. Silly plant, always has to be in the picture.
The other two have atleast doubled in size since the last picture. I can't say anything for the long term success of this but its working ok for me in the short term, your mileage will probably vary.
I'm growing another Cephalotus on a piece of driftwood more successfully here http://www.orchidboard.com/communit...dd-little-vivarium-project-micro-minis-3.html The Cephalotus was added as an after thought, one of those...were do I put this piece things. Should be updating that thread today with a better Cephalotus picture, not that the orchid people care about that
. That Cephalotus is approx. 2" from 2 T5HO bulbs and just sitting on a piece of driftwood, its gets all its water from the wicking of the driftwood. That piece is not as wet and that Cephalotus seems to like that amount of water much better, although to be fair the original division was much larger and that may have alot more to do with it, and it gets ALOT more light, less humidity, hotter temps.If you look closely to the right you can see some Utricularia graminifolia with a few bladders
. Silly plant, always has to be in the picture.
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For those that don't want to look through that ever growing thread here is that Cephalotus.
I can't find the original picture with the starting date and orginal starting condition, but here is the latest on a leaf pull I took. I've taken 2 and this is the first to see results, the other is still green so there is still hope. The driftwood pieces are laying on sphagnum moss that is constantly wet, the leaf pull is very lightly wrapped in some sphagnum moss (about 1/8" ball of it, it that) and just placed on the wood. I water them every 1-5 days, very erratically, the vivarium has 80%+ humidity thou. The driftwood where the base of the leaf pull sits completely dries out every 2-3 days.
I can't find the original picture with the starting date and orginal starting condition, but here is the latest on a leaf pull I took. I've taken 2 and this is the first to see results, the other is still green so there is still hope. The driftwood pieces are laying on sphagnum moss that is constantly wet, the leaf pull is very lightly wrapped in some sphagnum moss (about 1/8" ball of it, it that) and just placed on the wood. I water them every 1-5 days, very erratically, the vivarium has 80%+ humidity thou. The driftwood where the base of the leaf pull sits completely dries out every 2-3 days.
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jimscott
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I agree. I laud the creativity and I think the driftwood supplies O2 and good drainage. Great job!
WOW that's Awesome! I love fully planted tanks like that!
How is water being supplied over the logs? Do you have a small pump, do you mist heavily, do you dump a dixie cup of R/O over it?
What temps do your paludariums experience day and night?
And of course, can we see an overall tank shot of the bigger Ceph here at the end?
How is water being supplied over the logs? Do you have a small pump, do you mist heavily, do you dump a dixie cup of R/O over it?
What temps do your paludariums experience day and night?
And of course, can we see an overall tank shot of the bigger Ceph here at the end?
There is a pump is the back that runs to a 8-1 spliter, those 8 lines are feed to different locations over the diftwood. I flood the tank every month or 3, depending on when I have the time. Sometimes I mist sometimes I water with a mini turker baster using the tank water. Hey, if you don't have a mini turkey baster for your plants yet, get out and get it! But it can be 2-3 weeks between me doing anything besides feeding the killifish.
As for temps I really don't know, household temps? 75-65? The water has a heater and is set at 74 so the circulated water would be 74.
The larger Cephalotus is from this mini vivarium, a full write up can be seen here http://www.orchidboard.com/communit...-odd-little-vivarium-project-micro-minis.html. Lots of useless info in there, some usefull. Long read.
Anyway for those that don't want to bother here is a full Cephalotus pic and the tank.
Take note of the sun burnt orchid leaves, those leaves were burnt by 2 T5HO bulbs, 1 of which is an actinic bulb.
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Lil Stinkpot
Lucky Greenhorn
What are all those other laves? I see a definite orchid that looks kinda Dendrobium-like, then some paddle-shaped leaves like a Utricularia by the Cephalotus, then, what really interests me, are some green things between the two that look inflated. What other wild stuff you got growing in there?!?
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Check out his link to the other forum it gives a keyed "map" to this amazing creation:
http://www.orchidboard.com/communit...-odd-little-vivarium-project-micro-minis.html
All the pages are worth reading, just the kinda thing geeks like me enjoy!
RSS,
On the side I'd like to know how you get HC to grow like that. Mine just sits there thinning itself... Maybe it hates the coir/peat mix I used or maybe I divided my clumps too small and that set them back...forever... We have a local nursery that specializes in what they call "Fairy Plants" (miniature terrarium plants). They do nothing special for their HC that I can tell and it's overabundant filling pots and troughs all over the nursery spilling over the sides...
http://www.orchidboard.com/communit...-odd-little-vivarium-project-micro-minis.html
All the pages are worth reading, just the kinda thing geeks like me enjoy!
RSS,
On the side I'd like to know how you get HC to grow like that. Mine just sits there thinning itself... Maybe it hates the coir/peat mix I used or maybe I divided my clumps too small and that set them back...forever... We have a local nursery that specializes in what they call "Fairy Plants" (miniature terrarium plants). They do nothing special for their HC that I can tell and it's overabundant filling pots and troughs all over the nursery spilling over the sides...
wow!! I am planning on doing something very similar but a bit more traditional. I'll post up more details once I get it going. lol!! but yeah...it also involves growing a Cephalotus as an epiphyte.The one of the right of the Cephalotus is a Pleurothallis grobii, it just will not bloom in there thou. I'm thinking its just too much light for that species. The one on the left is an unided Pleurothallis species, I thought it would die when I put it in there so I did not label it, it had not roots just a leaf or two. Division scraps
. The vast mat of green stuff to the right/bottom is Plagiomnium affine, the stuff around the Cephalotus is just something that grew on its own. Very high humidity makes all sorts of odd things pop up, its annoying.Medium/High light seems to be the only requirement to get HC to grow like a weed, oh and being constantly moist to wet. I do fert that little tank every week but the strength is so low that I doubt its having that much effect. I started that HC mat with a few 1/4" pieces of plant, not clumps of plants just little stems I pulled off of another aquatic plant. So I don't think its your portion size, it likely the light levels, I'm watching some HC die back right now not 10 feet from that batch the only big different is the light levels. (running a little experiment, poor plants)
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Lil Stinkpot
Lucky Greenhorn
I'll bet it's the wetness levels then. I've got lotsa light over my Anoles viv enough to bloom plants and keep her happy on her basking perches but I don't deeply soak the soil all that often, bi-weekly maybe. It does stay plenty humid from heavy daily mistings, the soil never dries completely but it's not marshy at all since it's got a false bottom. I will try watering deeply more often and see what happens to the stuff.
I needed to pull a Ceph off the leaf cutting so I thought this would be a good time to update part of this thread. I removed all the various live mosses, there was alot, and this is what was left .
The entire piece of driftwood is very small so it is easy to pick up and inspect. The interesting thing I noticed was the completed lack of roots. I'm sure there is some because its anchored really well but they are not spreading out at all. For a leaf pull this size there should be a a few roots but nothing.
The wetness of the driftwood as it is now is how it always is, this piece is very constant and very easy to maintain a constant moisture level with and probably responsible for the lack of roots. The plant simply just doesn't need them.
Anyway here are the pics before I pulled one of the groups off.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/4584639717/" title="008 by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4584639717_b411906ac1_b.jpg" width="1024" height="685" alt="008" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/4584638915/" title="007 by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/4584638915_ae9d7ca5fd_b.jpg" width="1024" height="685" alt="007" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/4584638407/" title="006 by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4584638407_38867438a9_b.jpg" width="685" height="1024" alt="006" /></a>
.The entire piece of driftwood is very small so it is easy to pick up and inspect. The interesting thing I noticed was the completed lack of roots. I'm sure there is some because its anchored really well but they are not spreading out at all. For a leaf pull this size there should be a a few roots but nothing.
The wetness of the driftwood as it is now is how it always is, this piece is very constant and very easy to maintain a constant moisture level with and probably responsible for the lack of roots. The plant simply just doesn't need them.
Anyway here are the pics before I pulled one of the groups off.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/4584639717/" title="008 by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4584639717_b411906ac1_b.jpg" width="1024" height="685" alt="008" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/4584638915/" title="007 by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/4584638915_ae9d7ca5fd_b.jpg" width="1024" height="685" alt="007" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/4584638407/" title="006 by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4584638407_38867438a9_b.jpg" width="685" height="1024" alt="006" /></a>
Thought I'd update this. I removed one of the two Ceph's to use it in anothing tank. So here is the single one left in there. I would not say this is a good way to grow Cephs...but it is growing. Note the U. graminifolia in there...silly weed.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5224423153/" title="Cephalotus by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5224423153_5187f9a96b.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus" /></a>
Here is that little piece of driftwood, I've been using it to take divisions. The sphagnum moss is making the Ceph grow long stems with leaves/pitchers on top of those stems. Just snipe the stem and repot. Easy.
Anyway here is the next crop. I would guess there is a good 3/4"-1" of moss there. Should be a nice stem.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5225017440/" title="Cephalotus by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5009/5225017440_5f3f4ff01e.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5224423153/" title="Cephalotus by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5224423153_5187f9a96b.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus" /></a>
Here is that little piece of driftwood, I've been using it to take divisions. The sphagnum moss is making the Ceph grow long stems with leaves/pitchers on top of those stems. Just snipe the stem and repot. Easy.
Anyway here is the next crop. I would guess there is a good 3/4"-1" of moss there. Should be a nice stem.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5225017440/" title="Cephalotus by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5009/5225017440_5f3f4ff01e.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus" /></a>
Here is an update on the Ceph, its still growing very slowly. This is not a good envoirment for Ceph's but it seems they can live long term and actually grow some.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5288691210/" title="Cephalotus typical by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5161/5288691210_10bfb52051.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus typical" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5288691210/" title="Cephalotus typical by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5161/5288691210_10bfb52051.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus typical" /></a>
dionae
sarracenia lover
While doing my Ceph's check I noticed this guy was starting to grow a runner. Its hard to make out in the photo but here is it.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/58628330@N04/5376626084/" title="016 by Simpsonrs, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5002/5376626084_db4a7397ab_z.jpg" width="640" height="428" alt="016" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/58628330@N04/5376626084/" title="016 by Simpsonrs, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5002/5376626084_db4a7397ab_z.jpg" width="640" height="428" alt="016" /></a>
