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Growing Cephalotus follicularis on a Vertical Wall?

  • #41
woaaahhhh! That's very cool!!! Very nice terrarium!
 
  • #42
Took a pic of the larger Cephalotus to post in another thread so I figured I'd update this one.

Here is the original one a little larger.


And the newest one, its just starting to grow.
 
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  • #43
That's _SO_ Cool!!! :love:
 
  • #44
wow, they look like they are growing very nicely!
 
  • #45
Coming along nicely.. keep the pics coming!
 
  • #46
Some more progress, I'm a slight bit worried about the yellowish/green color they are getting. Not sure what is going on with that.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5255291379/" title="Cephalotus Typical by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/5255291379_98f1ef0887.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus Typical" /></a>

And the newer one is starting to grow.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5255291979/" title="Cephalotus Typical by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/5255291979_10111d8d87.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus Typical" /></a>
 
  • #47
I'm a slight bit worried about the yellowish/green color they are getting. Not sure what is going on with that.
Nutrient deficiency?
 
  • #48
Just looks like their not getting enough light to me.
 
  • #49
Nutrient deficiency?

That might be an issue, I'll have to get some bugs this weekend and see if that helps out.

Just looks like their not getting enough light to me.

Well this Cephalotus is getting more light than other Cephalotus that are nice red/purple in color. So its not a lighting issue. Something else.
 
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  • #50
To be honest, if they're growing so well like that anyway I wouldn't be worried about the colour... unless you really want colour.

What I do for feeding my Cephalotus is beta fish food pellets. I learned this from cplantaholic, I fed mine some around a month or two ago and they're starting to have much better growth now. :-D

The Cephalotus looks awesome btw!! WOW! I really want to try this now!! I wonder what other plants can grow on a wall?! :-o
 
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  • #51
I don't know what made them start hardening/coloring up but they look much better now. I did not remember to feed them :-)). Maybe the colder temps, who knows...if they keep getting color at the rate they are now, they should look great come new years. The main pitcher there is 1 5/8" from top to bottom.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5287950859/" title="Cephalotus typical by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5206/5287950859_56e7a660a5.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus typical" /></a>

And the little one.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/39807474@N07/5287951115/" title="Cephalotus typical by randallsimpson, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5009/5287951115_488f1ff636.jpg" width="500" height="334" alt="Cephalotus typical" /></a>
 
  • #52
Looking good
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  • #53
Whoaaaaaaa :0o:

Absolutely awesome progress!!!!
They're looking great! :-D
 
  • #54
omg I envy you... all of my Cephalotus have root rot right now, lol. :0o:
 
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  • #55
Might as well update this one too.

The big Cephalotus has colored up some, although I'm still hoping for more color. I don't understand Cephalotus coloration...the same clone under less light is way darker than this one. Anyway here he is.


The little one has split and is now 2 little ones :-D. Please someone tell me how to not grow moss.....I flooded the tank last week, the water level has never been that high before, and I'll probably just flood it twice a year. 1" of water has exaporated since I flooded it last Sunday.
 
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  • #56
Might as well update this one too.

The big Cephalotus has colored up some, although I'm still hoping for more color. I don't understand Cephalotus coloration...the same clone under less light is way darker than this one.
I think that it's as much to do with the light colour as the intensity. I find that Cephalotus colour up nicely under white LED. Most white LEDs are actually blue with phosphor coating, therefore have a strong peak in the blue spectrum. I have read that levels of anthocyanin, the plant pigment responsible for colouration, increase under blue or UV light.
 
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  • #57
I think that it's as much to do with the light colour as the intensity. I find that Cephalotus colour up nicely under white LED. Most white LEDs are actually blue with phosphor coating, therefore have a strong peak in the blue spectrum. I have read that levels of anthocyanin, the plant pigment responsible for colouration, increase under blue or UV light.

I have two division from the same mother plant, the big Cephalotus is one and the other is growing under the same T5HO bulbs. This Cephalotus is closer to the bulbs than the other, both are about 12" from the end of the tube (one of each end). The big Cephalotus is about 4-5" closer to the bulbs, this Cephalotus is growing pitchers about three times the size of the other. One is going for size and the other great color...Same clone, very very similiar lighting, same temps. Humidity, soil, watering are all different.

As I said, I don't get it.

Added a quick photo for reference. This is the same clone 4-5" further away from the same bulbs as the "big Cephalotus".
 
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  • #58
The big Cephalotus has colored up some, although I'm still hoping for more color. I don't understand Cephalotus coloration...the same clone under less light is way darker than this one.

Red coloration on a Cephalotus is dependent on the clone, light intensity AND temperature.

These plants on the picture are of the same clone (at least I think so, they are mass produced plants purchased from the same table in the same shop with the same green starting color, but have had different cultivation conditions):
Cephalotus_Farbvergleich.jpg


The green plant has been kept indoors at about 20°C and artificial lighting.
The reddish plant has been kept outdoors, about 5 hours of direct sunlight, from May until November.

Most of the red coloration appeared with falling temperatures outdoors during September, October and November while the midday sun elevation and the temperatures were much lower than in July/August.

So if you notice better red with lower light levels, then maybe the additional heat dissipation if the "better" light (more Watt = more heat, less distance to the lamp = more heat) prevent better coloration because of higher temperatures under the "better" lights?
 
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  • #59
Red coloration on a Cephalotus is dependent on the clone, light intensity AND temperature.

These plants on the picture are of the same clone (at least I think so, they are mass produced plants purchased from the same table in the same shop with the same green starting color, but have had different cultivation conditions):

The green plant has been kept indoors at about 20°C and artificial lighting.
The reddish plant has been kept outdoors, about 5 hours of direct sunlight, from May until November.

Most of the red coloration appeared with falling temperatures outdoors during September, October and November while the midday sun elevation and the temperatures were much lower than in July/August.

So if you notice better red with lower light levels, then maybe the additional heat dissipation if the "better" light (more Watt = more heat, less distance to the lamp = more heat) prevent better coloration because of higher temperatures under the "better" lights?

The difference in temps is at best 2-3 degree F. I am positive they are the same clone as I have only every had 1 'typical'. Now I've divided it into a ton.

This is not the first time I've grown clones in very similiar conditions and had drastic differences in color. My next guess would be mediums as I use a wide range of mediums. When I've matched the light/temps/clone/humidity/watering I'm only left with air flow and medium?

Some orchids take on a purplish color in higher light, some fern leaves grow larger in lower light, other plants turn purple in lower light, but they all start growing that way and are always that color/size, the Cephalotus are starting green, getting old then changing color. Some pitchers stay green for weeks, others start growing redish. I'm sure we (as a community) as missing an element. Lights/temps/+?

I know lighting and temps are factors, I'm just thinking there is more to it.
 
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  • #60
Could be medium, as my Cephalotus grown in a dune sand/peat mix took on a really dark colouration.
 
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