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Meet "Medusa," my 20-year old Czech Giant Cephalotus follicularis

Pictures always speak louder than words. God, what a monster of a plant. I haven't seen anything on this forum that even comes close to this, let alone my other monster specimens such as Golden Clumper and Eden Black.

Happy New Year, Terraforums. Enjoy the pics!

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20 year old? That's... a bit small for a 20-year old ceph... like, miniscule :O

Are you sure? or is this another joke, like your "12-year old red hummers giant" or whatever?
 
It's just more misleading words, like describing his dark ceph as an Eden Black and the 12 year Red Hummer.

What we're looking at, is a DIVISION from a specimen of that age.

It's nice though.
 
There's no "division" here, bro

What we're looking at, is a DIVISION from a specimen of that age.

This is the mother plant, no divisions, bro. :-O
 
Seriously?.... :crazy:

Did you miss the pics I posted in 1 of your threads?

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This picture is from a 5 1/2 year old plant.


I think we have a troll on the forums.....
 
1- I AM A LADY. GET THAT!

2- Ah, so you typo'd then, and meant "2 years old" because for 20 years, that's just sad.
 
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Nice Cephalotus, it's better than mine!
 
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Nice plant, here is the only example of age progression I have on any of mine....

A pulling I took from another pot back in '07 it is a 6" pot.

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And yesterday

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I don't think it's great growth... it has had it's setbacks, but I don't think it is too bad. But come 20 years, I would sure hope it progressions better than where yours is... 20 years just seems off, or it has had major set backs over the years. What size is that pot, the scale just isn't there and it really looks like a 2 or 3" pot like my Czech Giant is currently in.
Andrew
 
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No matter what the age, the pitcher in the bottom center of picture # 2 is lovely!
 
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Seriously?.... :crazy:

Did you miss the pics I posted in 1 of your threads?

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This picture is from a 5 1/2 year old plant.


I think we have a troll on the forums.....

HOLY CEPHALOTUS BATMAN!! I think you may have an infestation.. I have something that'll clear that right up. It's called, overnight express.
 
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Why are all your plants so "leggy"? I've never had a Ceph grow like that. It makes them look less heathy overall. Has someone been taking a ton of pulls?

The only way this is 20 years old is if you've been bonsai'ing it or abusing it. I've taken 1/2" size Ceph's and grown them into 4-6" Ceph's in under a year. In 20 years....I would think they would be potbound. Given proper care.

I really think List is baiting us and may not even own these plants.
 
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HOLY CEPHALOTUS BATMAN!! I think you may have an infestation.. I have something that'll clear that right up. It's called, overnight express.
Hahaha.
 
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I've never had a Ceph grow like that.
may not even own these plants.
I'm inclined to believe he owns them thus far, since in the original dying ceph post the photos showed a goofy looking plant and he said he was using a low wattage UV light so maybe that's what is deforming them with these funny stretched out noodle like stalks that all the cephs he's showed seem to have.

They should be tight clumping mounds like Steve showed. Under proper lighting and intensity his might revert to a proper growth pattern and colors.
 
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I have to agree, it doesnt seem like it is getting enough light. All the Cephalotus, no matter what color or "cultivar" it is, they all grow bunched up, even the entirely green ones as long as they are getting their required amount of light they dont stretch out so much. I take it the plant is doing this to try and find as much light as possible. The further away it stretches from the growing point, the more area of the plant that can absorb whatever light it can find.

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Also, elgecko, awesome plants, I am so jealous.
 
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Are we doing this again in another thread?
Oh, come on! What's the point?



! - Guess that is one opinion! :-D
 
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Are we doing this again in another thread?
Oh, come on! What's the point?
I'm not interested in the extraneous bits of argument from the last thread - I was just passing on an observation about the etiolated looks of all his plants. I don't care what his plants "are" or "are not", I've never been into the whole named CV thing - I'll gladly leave that mess to the specialists to debate. I do leave my plants labeled whatever I get them as unless someone corrects me with a new name, then I amend the original label and when I pass it on I will tell them both names I'd been given. Regardless of all that, I like to see any plant being grown well no matter what it is and I have a feeling he's going to loose every one of these, slowly, if the lighting situation doesn't get corrected. The current pitchers are colorful but looking at the center of the plant and at the new growth it all looks very weak.

Correcting the lighting is such an easy fix and inexpensive compared to even a common Ceph but lighting is the most important aspect of indoor horticulture since light is our plants life support/energy generator however people want to imagine it. I would be more than willing to pass on some links to low cost high out put T5 lights to List if he's willing to consider them. I would much rather see him fix these issues and really get the plants growing well then loose them entirely.
 
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Hey Swords,
I would generally agree, but as myself and others have already tried to help concerning the first Ceph that was expressing distress as it was subject to poor conditions, I no longer think that the concern is really there. Via what was expressed in return for peoples advice and the attitude observed in following posts, it became obvious (to me and a couple others at least) that there was more to these posts than was being openly presented.

I too feel sorry for the situation these poor life-forms are experiencing. These are desirable plants to many here, and research has been done previously to find out which plants people here value most, before these were chosen and presented in the way they have been.

A lot of us have been here long enough to see when someone new openly introduces themselves, the plants they are growing and any problems they are having. It is interesting how things proceeded in this instance, and how a plea for help turned into the stance that has been exhibited.

While I am somewhat concerned about how people handle correctly identifying their plants, especially if they are going to potentially be trading or selling them to others some day, I am not all that bent about it either. But to me I see things going on here that are more than meets the eye, and it is that in which I am pointing out.
I have read all these posts from the beginning, and watched people sincerely try to help. I am not responding about this post alone, but considering all the posts together in order to understand the big picture.
There are other ones beyond this one also, and they are getting quite obvious and funny actually. I can't believe how far things are going with all this.
It no longer appears to me that there is a real and normal concern for these plants well being, as help has been offered for over a month now and it seems it has not been pursued normuch indication of any of it tried or followed, other than pruning dead leaves.

I guess I am just saying, I can appreciate the help you are trying to provide, but then, they aren't my plants! We can only hope that your advice is appreciated by others too.
 
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When I was getting going with my HL Nep chamber years ago I was getting advice from guys like Tony and Neps (Jeff - is he ever here anymore?) and I always tried to follow the advice from the folks who I asked help from or expand on the concepts they presented me with to fit my application. But at the same time there were some kids from FL and other hot states who were buying the same plants and imagining they didn't need to do any extra effort for cooling and lighting cos I guess they were smarter than the plants biology. We all saw those plants go downhill while they asked the same questions about why their rajahs and hamatas and villosas were all slowly shrinking and dying and yet continually fighting the advice given. "I don't need to do cooling" "My dad says a single strip aquarium light is more than enough light". and so on... Those guys are no longer members - probably weren't members more than six months. I guess I've never understood the point of doing that, getting the plants just to say you got 'em but then willfully letting them die...

Oh well, I said all I'm gonna bother with on the matter if they get abused to death I guess it isn't any skin off my knuckles. But I would like to see them get corrected lighting setup and see where they are in six months or so.
 
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