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"Central Valley" of where?
brazil? texas? alaska? pennsylvania? maine? china?
there are a lot of valleys in the world!
and they all have a center!
all Sarracenia can basically take the same conditions..
with the exception of S. purpurea, which is more cold-tolerant than the others.
*cant* take high temps and a lot of sun?
do you mean you *Dont* have high temps and a lot of sun where you are?
Sarracenia like lots of sun, the more the better!
and can take heat fairly well, if its only a few weeks..
what they DO need however is humidity!
so if you are in a high-sun desert environment, like Phoenix, the dry air will be a concern..
So what exactly is your climate like?
describe your seasons in terms of light, higest and lowest temps, precipitation and humidity, and we can go from there!
Scot
brazil? texas? alaska? pennsylvania? maine? china?
there are a lot of valleys in the world!
and they all have a center!
all Sarracenia can basically take the same conditions..
with the exception of S. purpurea, which is more cold-tolerant than the others.
*cant* take high temps and a lot of sun?
do you mean you *Dont* have high temps and a lot of sun where you are?
Sarracenia like lots of sun, the more the better!
and can take heat fairly well, if its only a few weeks..
what they DO need however is humidity!
so if you are in a high-sun desert environment, like Phoenix, the dry air will be a concern..
So what exactly is your climate like?
describe your seasons in terms of light, higest and lowest temps, precipitation and humidity, and we can go from there!
Scot
LMAO! Hmmm.....talk about bad grammar!
Okie...lemme get this straight.
Im in the central valley of California in zone 8. The summer temps here are 90-100 degrees. Their is always a week or two in july when it decides to hit 110 or so. Winter weather is at about 30-40 degrees-we get frosts....not so good for the orange growers around. No snow....except once in about 100 or so years if I remember right.
The summer sun here is scorching hot in the summer. The enviroment is pretty dry, with only a few rains during spring and fall.
Okie...lemme get this straight.
Im in the central valley of California in zone 8. The summer temps here are 90-100 degrees. Their is always a week or two in july when it decides to hit 110 or so. Winter weather is at about 30-40 degrees-we get frosts....not so good for the orange growers around. No snow....except once in about 100 or so years if I remember right.
The summer sun here is scorching hot in the summer. The enviroment is pretty dry, with only a few rains during spring and fall.
ah! ok..central California..
well your conditions sound basically ok!
quite ideal actually..
perhaps a bit warm in the summer, but most CPs should be able to deal ok with that kind of heat, as long as you keep plenty of water in the trays..
and your winter temps are perfect for a natural dormancy outdoors! (im jealous)
so overall, I would say you are all set!
CPs do need a lot of direct sunlight..they do like to bake in the sun's rays..but with your extreme heat, I would look for someplace that gets direct sun in the morning or evening, but is sheltered from the intense mid-day sun..like under a tree..that would help with the heat problem..
give then shade during the hottest hours of mid-day..then direct sun in the cooler morning or evening hours.
so other than a few stretches of "too hot"..your conditions sound just fine!
Scot
well your conditions sound basically ok!
quite ideal actually..
perhaps a bit warm in the summer, but most CPs should be able to deal ok with that kind of heat, as long as you keep plenty of water in the trays..
and your winter temps are perfect for a natural dormancy outdoors! (im jealous)
so overall, I would say you are all set!
CPs do need a lot of direct sunlight..they do like to bake in the sun's rays..but with your extreme heat, I would look for someplace that gets direct sun in the morning or evening, but is sheltered from the intense mid-day sun..like under a tree..that would help with the heat problem..
give then shade during the hottest hours of mid-day..then direct sun in the cooler morning or evening hours.
so other than a few stretches of "too hot"..your conditions sound just fine!
Scot
PlantAKiss
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Hi Nflytrap
Welcome to the forums and to the world of CPs.
You can make a little "micro bog" using a small plastic pond liner (you can get them at Lowes for about 11.99 and up). Add several inches of water into the container and sit your pots in it and you have a semblance of a little pond. The water in the container will help with the humidity. However...with high temps like that, if you don't get a lot of rain, you will need to add water fairly often. It would be fine to let the container dry out every now and then...that way the water in the container will stay fresh and not get stagnant. If my sarra "ponds" get too full of water, I drain it out and refill them. And all you need is several inches of water...doesn't need to be full to the rim.
Just a thought. Where's there's a will, there's a way.
Suzanne
Welcome to the forums and to the world of CPs.
You can make a little "micro bog" using a small plastic pond liner (you can get them at Lowes for about 11.99 and up). Add several inches of water into the container and sit your pots in it and you have a semblance of a little pond. The water in the container will help with the humidity. However...with high temps like that, if you don't get a lot of rain, you will need to add water fairly often. It would be fine to let the container dry out every now and then...that way the water in the container will stay fresh and not get stagnant. If my sarra "ponds" get too full of water, I drain it out and refill them. And all you need is several inches of water...doesn't need to be full to the rim.
Just a thought. Where's there's a will, there's a way.
Suzanne
Hello,
Yes, it is very wise to use water without high minerals, this can kill the plant. So distilled, rain, or r/o water are the ones to use. Lucky for me, I am on a well, so my water is very low in harmful minerals. S. Luecophylla is a very nice sarracenia, i have several that I keep outside all year long. Flava is another species I like alot to.
Kevin
Yes, it is very wise to use water without high minerals, this can kill the plant. So distilled, rain, or r/o water are the ones to use. Lucky for me, I am on a well, so my water is very low in harmful minerals. S. Luecophylla is a very nice sarracenia, i have several that I keep outside all year long. Flava is another species I like alot to.
Kevin
As long as you keep 'em wet enough in the summer, any and all should do fine. If it's your first, I would recommend one of the available cultivars, such as dixie lace. They are vigorous growers and put up new pitchers pretty much constantly, compared to some of the species which are only at their prime for a few months out of the year. Plus, it's a pretty fine looking plant when mature and will fill up a pot in no time.
vft guy in SJ
VFT and Drosera lover
Wesley
God must have an interesting sense of humor
Personally I would wait until spring to buy any plants that need a dormancy. I have also never owned an American pitcher plant (I have lots of Australian pitcher though), I'm going to try growing S. Leucophylla, S. Minor, and S. Rubra (Wherryi) first in a whiskey barrel minibog. I think I start it in April.
[b said:
In the first year, you can expect one to two inch immature pitchers (meaning they do not look like the adult). You won't get any mature pitchers until the third year from seed, about 8 inches (roughly, depends on species) tall. The plants will flower between the 4th and 5th growing season.
So your looking at between three to five years.
SF
