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Double-ribbed ceph

  • #21
Starman, in Augustins' photo the central wing is kinda forked into 2 then back to 1 at the bottom. However on NepG's photo there is very precisely 1 wing in the center. That is the difference. Mine has the same thing as Augustin's does. 1 at the top spreading into 2 and then back to 1 at the bottom, though I think the "spread" wing is more common than people notice.
Perhaps knowing where each plant came from (distributor) might help in figuring out if this is a variant. Mine came from Tony.

Joe
 
  • #22
it does not look any different to my many ceph clones, they all vary a bit in the exact shape of the central 'wing' but this just seems to be a typical 'Y' shaped wing to me....:D
 
  • #23
What?
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Im sorry, I dont see anything wrong with that ceph.
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Maybe you could post a 'typical' and a 'mutated' photo and post them together in the same post?
 
  • #25
Its the same as the picture before. I STILL dont see anything wrong with the ceph.
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  • #26
Hi Starman:

I don't know what you are looking at, but these are the pictures.

double ribbed ceph
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regular ceph
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I hope you see something now
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Gus
 
  • #27
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, I see!
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Hmmmmm, that is strange...........
Dino
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  • #28
OH! i see completely now!!

the pics you posted earlier are NOT the same as the pic you just posted.

that is a really cool mutation!
 
  • #29
hmmm, interesting, but I don't think it worrents a new name, just an update of the description. Plants tend to varry a hole lot and those darn descriptions more often then not reflect only one individual. VFTs are a good example of a very varriable plant that has a poor description.
 
  • #30
Hi Darcie:

All i know is that more people carry this variant of cephalotus and from more than one source. If you go by the book:

"The carnivorous plants" by Francis Ernest Lloyd and "the "Carnivorous plants of Australia" vol 3 by Allen Lowrie, this extra set of mini ribs is not described, then the question remains what is it? a subspecies. Since you can cross pollinate cephalotus, you may end up with a plant in which half of the pitchers are double ribbed and half that isn't plus many other types of variations.

The VFT's differ by petiole, trap, and teeth length, but they still have the same traits with variations in size and colour. Would you call these new characteristics or just variations of these?

Gus
 
  • #32
Hey since it has an extra rib, maybe you can name it to make some refference to Adam, like "Pre-Eve" or "Garden of Eden" clone, lol.

Joe
 
  • #33
Hi all:

There is a fierce debate on two other forums whether this is a true characteristic or a random event. I think we need to study them more to get to a plausible explanation on how and why these extra ribs are there.

I particularly believe is a genuine trait, but it is difficult to prove
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since crossing a pure double rib population with a typical one, one may get some pitchers in some plants with ribs and other pitchers in the same plant without. I think a field study on cephs in their natural habitats is highly desirable to answer some of these questions

Gus
 
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