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Keeping squirrels away

Cynic81

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Anyone have any suggestions for keeping squirrels away from the plants? I just went onto my back deck to find a lot of my pots had been dug through (superficially, thank god). However, my new S. flava had some it's rhizome chewed and some leaves were torn off. I spent $14 and have waited very long to own one of these and I'm not going to lose it to a #%@ing squirrel!  
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Note: I live in the middle of Richmond, so discharging a firearm is out of the question. Yes, it may be Richmond, but i'm not taking my chances.
 
*cocks rifle*
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Seriously, I would go squirrel huntin.. squirrel soup is great
 
i don't think there's much you can do other than cut all the trees down in a 1/2 mile radius. killing them is only a temporary fix, as more will move in. however, i've found a well aimed shot with a BB gun makes them jump pretty high off the ground and run pretty fast, and is at least a entertaining way to exact some sort of revenge.
 
Believe it or not the way I've gotten the squirrels to leave my plants alone is by putting a squirrel feeder up in the back corner of the garden. It took them about a day to find it and they haven't touched the plants since.
 
My heart goes out to you. I was out earlier this morning and found an entire bed of over 100 bearded iris with half of them sticking out of the ground sideways and the other half uprooted again and partially dragged off. One problem, this must have happened those few days we had temps around 40 last week and I didn't catch it so now the ground is frozen again and the rhizomes can't be moved without a chisel or jack hammer. The damage these critters have done to literally thousands and thousands of dollars of woodland species of plants I planted over here would make you go out of your mind. What they did to my entire bog of outdoor CPs last fall was the final straw.

You have a few choices.  

You can add a kiddie sandbox somewhere on your property that you put nice loose soil in for the squirrels to do their thing in. The squirrels will use it and it may distract them for a while but it isn't a long term solution. The other problem with the sand box is that feral and stray cats will start using it to do their thing sooner or later.  There are those who swear by this. Personally, I don't want to look at a squirrel dirt box in my yard and I am not going to put up with stray or feral cats on my property.

You can try using chili powder or similar.  This can work for a little bit, at least until it rains. If you do not reapply your red cayenne or chili pepper immediately after it rains, the squirrels will be right there the minute you forget and they will rip the crap out of your plants. There are many people who swear by using these types of products. I bought them in bulk at Sam's club and felt as if I should have owned stock in the companies that sold these powdered peppers and ultimately, the squirrels seized upon any opportunity and still trashed plants. I don't think these work and they are a total waste of money and your energy applying them EVERY single day sometimes 2x and 3x.

Plastic owls on stakes provide relief for all of one week. I even bought the one with the head that swirls around with the glowing eyes.  I had metal stakes strategically placed in and around my plants and I propped old hooter up and I religiously moved him from stake to stake in and around the area I wanted protected. Sooner or later the squirrels figure it out and they are back to tearing the crap out of your plants as if there is no tomorrow.

There are lifelike blow up snakes that you can purchase to place on the ground. These work for a few days.  They have a tendency of getting blown around in the wind though and you have to stake them well.  The minute you stake them well, you can't move them around and that is when the squirrels will know it is fake and one day you will walk out by your plants and see the squirrels doing their thing with the fake snake flopping around on the ground in a breeze. They do come in a very attractive color array. You can have nice bright orange with purple spots as well as the more life like looking snakes. Don't bother, I've tried them both.  Both are equally ineffective.

Mothballs will work. I can't recommend this as they look like nice big peppermint jaw breakers to children and furthermore they are highly toxic and will leech down into the potting medium of your soil.  If I am not mistaken, they are also carcinogenic.

I have entire shelves in my garage that have very expensive products that allegedly would deter squirrels and deer and rabbits. No sense providing you with the names of these products as none of them work. NONE OF THEM WORK.  They all are a big huge waste of your hard earned money.

Poisons work. I refuse to use poisons as they are non discriminatory and squirrels are part of the food chain. No sense poisoning a squirrel only to find out one of my turkey vultures ate it a few days later. The issue that concerns me the most with the use of poisons is that the death is horrible and very slow for the animal. It's inhumane in my book. I don't feel the use of poisons is ethical.  The animal is only doing what animals do to survive and we really need to separate the behavior from the critter. God forbid a child got into poison too.  

You can run out your door charging the squirrels wildly flapping your arms while screaming obscenities. I’ve done this before. Make sure the door is unlocked before you run at the squirrels in a rage so you don’t lock yourself out- been there done that.  Another tip, make sure you are dressed before running out to charge the squirrels or your neighbors will think you are insane. You will feel better as the squirrels will take off  but they will just wait until you leave for work to come back and do their dirty work so this doesn’t really work all that well now does it?  Large dogs work too. You open up the door and yell sic em and watch your dogs shoot off in three different directions. Then you spend a few hours gathering up your dogs from the neighborhood because they are freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  The squirrels will take off the first few times you let the dogs out but after a while they become desensitized and just run for higher branches to wait until the dogs are brought back in the house so they can come back down and destroy your plants.

So, what works? Build a greenhouse on your property and place your plant in the greenhouse. No money for this?  Don't feel bad, me either.

You can get a HavAHart trap. http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/SPEC/pick-havahartsq1.htm
Do not buy the new squirrel repellant that HavAHart is marketing because it doesn't work- I own it... I know. Stick to the trap and you'll do fine. Bait the trap and you should have your squirrel. Now that you have the little squirrel face in your trap you might as well shoot him or call animal control to come and pick him up to humanely destroy him as to take him for a drive in the country is a death sentence anyway as they are territorial.  Seriously, they will not be able to live if you dump them near a farm or on a country road somewhere as they generally die from injuries sustained from other squirrels in the area or from starvation.  If you go and dump the animal in another residential area, it runs into the same territorial issues and additionally somebody else inherits your problem and that isn't too neighborly.

It is legal to discharge here. One problem is that I couldn't bear to kill squirrel faces so I now have a staked bog that has chicken wire all around it. The top has fruit tree netting on it. This keeps the squirrels and the feral/stray cats out.  Extremely unattractive, but this is the only line of defense I have found that works other than shooting them with a .22. Following along this concept line, you could create a frame out of 2x2s and you could use a staple gun and attach chicken wire and create a nice little wire cloche to go over the top of your plant and I would think this would work... unless of course your squirrels organize and go at the enclosure as a team to knock it over to get at your plant and I wouldn't put anything past squirrels these days. I'm going to have to do something myself here real soon as I have some larger pots the critters are already eyeing and I see trouble on the horizon. Last year I saw a big old tom cat balancing in a tri pod position over one of my planters and he took a dump. That planter didn't have any plants in it at the time but it will this year. Feral and stray cats are picked up by animal control and are humanely destroyed around here. The tom cat is no more. That still leaves squirrels though. If you are having a problem this early in the year, you should be pulling your hair out by fall if you don’t come up with some way to protect your plant.  

Best wishes to you and I truly mean it.  If I had it in me to shoot them, I would in a heart beat as a .22 is pretty quiet and the death is quick.  Should you find anything that works that I haven’t tried, please share with me.
 
You can get a dog.

You could also make enclosures from wire mesh or chickenwire. I have to do this every spring.
 
I've heard that squirrels will avoid the smell of blood. You could buy a juicy steak, and throw the juice at the bottom of the styrofoam package near your plants. I think I suggested this to Plantakiss, but somehow I don't think she tried it ;)
 
Hmm, I've always just given them another easier source to what they want to do.
 
I have something that has twice dug up the upperland part of one of my bogs. Everything was scattered but nothing injured. Although I was not home for two days lasttime so soem 'Dews' are missing. Fortunatly my S. psitticenia x. rubra anthro free from copper was fine.
 
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I had terrible squirrel & bird trouble last year. I made "cages" out of hardware cloth that I set over the plants. The holes are about 5/8" square so there's plenty of room to let bugs in.
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  • #11
I tried the blood.  That lasted until we had a few good rains however it attracted raccoons that soon discovered I had ponds over here. The raccoons ate all the fish in my main pond so I ended up having to run electrical zap wire around one of them. Now the raccoons are in my garbage and composters. They never left. Opportunistic thugs.

The squirrel feeders do work in all seasons except fall around here. The only problem with the squirrel feeders is that is artificial feeding and I swear the squirrels have a network and tell their buddies to come on over for the free smorgasbord. We had about 20 squirrels and that number doubled when we stocked feeders with peanuts so we stopped.  In fall, the feeders didn't help at all as the squirrels are hardwired to bury acorns and nuts. I am in a heavily wooded area of oaks and hickories. The feeders might work in areas that don't have fruiting trees.

I'm still thinking chicken wire on a frame or attached to stakes is about the best for me.
 
  • #12
I have used bird netting for ever. It worked for me and was easier to handle than chickenwire, and because it is black and thinner than wire, it doesn't interfere with the CP view.
 
  • #13
Thanks bugweed I will try that for mine.
 
  • #14
I may try that too. My back deck is rather small and I could easily enclose it with bird netting.

I'm hoping the Flava will pull through from it's damage. Thanks to everyoen for their suggestions, and don't be afraid to offer more!
 
  • #15
Make sacrifices to the squirrel gods?

The fruit tree netting is virtually invisible from a distance. I't is considerably more attractive than the chicken wire.
 
  • #17
I have a bird table that is visitied by unwelcome squirrels and use, as a temporary measure lasting a few weeks, a method that is a bit cruel, but effective (not sure how to apply it to your situation). I watched where they climbed and how and picked a spot where they had to put their feet. Next I make a mix of butter nad chillie powder (strong), and paste the mix so that they will get it on them. They then try to lick it off and with a rapid flick of the tail - leave at a rate of knots. It lasts a few weeks and then they are back to relearn the same lesson.
Any help?
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  • #18
I made a small stand and covered it with this plastic mesh used for covering trees, I believe this is the bird netting. It was like $14 for a huge roll of it. They get frustrated, I've seen a squirrel jump up on my stand and hang there on the bird netting, just staring at the plants inside! They are so crafty!
 
  • #19
My squirrels have read these posts and they are forming a labor union.  They are organizing and it is rumored scissors will be standard issue. Just kidding.

Say the one big problem I had with the netting when I draped it as a stand alone is that one of my mourning doves (husband says my memory is failing and it wasn't a mourning dove) got in it and was tangled to the point I had to go out there and risk getting pecked to free him/her. The bird didn't even try to peck me and I was able to release it very easily without cutting the netting. This only happened once although I hear horror stories of people finding dead Blue Birds as well as other species. I think the positives of using netting far outweigh the negatives. Since we're always lovingly watching our plants, I doubt very seriously if any bird would go all that long unnoticed. I am using the bird netting over the tops of chicken wire enclosures because of the English House Sparrows in my area. It is spring time and they will soon be raising young. English House Sparrows feed their young insects. These birds are notorious for being survivors and if you have high numbers of them present in your area, it is only a matter of time before they figure out that some plants are basically breakfast, lunch, and dinner on a silver platter- easy pickins. There are quite a few people who come home to shredded plants and assume it was a squirrel when in fact it was English House Sparrows. Video cameras are wonderful things and I had that netting up over the chicken wire so fast it would make your head spin the minute I saw them hanging around my bog plants.  No sense letting them get so much as one insect to reinforce a stimulus repsonse type situation. I can guarantee they'd try to hang out in and around my plants in the years to come thanks to learned behavior. English House Sparrows don't just raise young in the spring, they can successfully raise their young up through the fall and it is not uncommon for them to start right up after one batch fledges. They can do this 3-4 times per year.
 
  • #20
i lost my oreophila to a squirrel as i dug it out on a hot summer day when i was at school leadingit to drying out and after repoting it did not recover and died. That really annoyed me considering that the plant is so rare to get and it was given to me by dean cook along with one of my orders
 
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