Well, lets start this again. No Jay Jay I am not threatening you. I am being firm and to the point and had I typed something when I first read the thread I would have curse you up one side and down the other and said a bunch of other things to get me in trouble. I am going to attempt to say things as PC as possible, but dunno how good a job I will do with it.
I thought it was you I was talking about the hibernaculum with, but it was HP. So you have a reprieve there. So instead of looking up what a hiberhaculum was you shot off at the mouth to Clint, who happens to be a senior member here with a lot of knowledge of CPs. Just in case your too lazy to look it up this is from Wiki "In botany, a hibernaculum is a bud, case, or protective covering that a plant uses to survive the challenging environmental conditions during a dormancy period." The key there is
Challenging environmental conditions, the plant does not need to go into winter to send it into dormancy. Just a drastic enough change in condition can send it into dormancy.
Clint answered your question. Here it is,
1: Grass. Get rid of it.
2: No nutrients for starters, and secondly your plants need more light. I don't understand what you mean.. UK capensis? What does that mean? That's a picture of D. anglica that looks like it's forming hibernacula. Getting ready to go dormant. I'm confused, and D. anglica is covered up in the first picture.
He said it was grass get rid of it. How is that not answering your question?
He also answered your second question, but wanted a little more clarification because you were showing pictures of two totally different plants that require different conditions to grow effectively. But wait you thought you they were the same plant. Who is the one who thinks they know more than they do?
Clint was right in his second post. You were asking why the grass wasn't doing so well. Maybe you should have been more specific in your post when asking the question. Your talking about the grass and then the next question you ask why isn't it doing well. If you were talking about the dew then you should have said why isn't the sundew doing well.
Clint also told you they are not getting enough light and I agree with him. I don;t care how long you have had it outside. The leaves made under the crappy lighting condition are still going to be long and curled. The new ones will be of proper length and firmness. The thing is when you moved it outside you sent it into shock sending it into the dormency phase.
Again Clint answered your questions here:
You asked why the grass wasn't doing well lol.I guess you meant the Drosera.
I actually forgot that it's July..... but that looks like hibernacula to me, don't you agree? It is a bit early lol. What are two are you talking about? I see one D. anglica and two D. capensis. They aren't the same plant, and it's not just another form of D. capensis that's temperate. D. capensis comes from the cape in South Africa. It's tropical. D. anglica is temperate, except from the form from Hawaii. You even have them labeled properly, so... if you aren't calling D. anglica D. capensis and D. capensis D. anglica, I don't know what you're talking about.
Look at it. You aren't giving it enough light, ditto for your Dionaea and D. capensis, and it looks like you haven't had them long. How long have you had them all? They should look better than that after a month. That weird grass is just that. It's grass. It's a weed, so pluck it out.
The fact he said he forgot it was July is irrelevant. The plant is going dormant by the observation of your picture. The month has nothing to do with that diagnosis.
You forgot it was july?? They are getting plenty of light, its not my fault it isnt sunny here all the time. I'd rather have them inside in the warmth as opposed to outside in the rain. Whats Ditto for the Dioanea mean? I'm doing the best I can given the sunlight we are having here. If they were outside they'd have no leaves or worse. Clearly it isn't that bad as one is flowering. I appologise for thinking D.Anglica is a form of D.Capensis, I didn't know they were seperate. Why would I ask "why isnt the grass doing so well?" lol. I have no idea what a
is, so I can't agree, sorry. I only had 1 Capensis and it died. I left it out in the rain and frost. I wont let these die.
A person with
experience growing can see those plants are neglected and have not been getting enough light. They are dewless and look a little limp. He was also trying to help with your VFT too. Ditto means also, I am sure you could find that reference on the internet had you bothered looking it up. Your second question looked like it was referring to the grass to me be more specific in your questions. You really should have given your growing conditions when you asked the question too, but Clint was trying to help you without it and giving you the general info needed to grow the plants.
And Just FYI Crissy is right when she said plants will flower when overly stressed too, as in stressed so much to die. Just because a plant is flowering does not mean the plant is the healthiest. Sometimes it is a sign of pending death. If D. anglica is native to the UK you bet it would do better outside. IT LIVES THERE IN THE WILD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!! And I have seen some pretty pretty in situ pictures of D. anglica ( BTW the species names are not supposed to be capitalized) Even with all the rain the plants will be covered in dew. Think about it. When given ideal conditions the plant will thrive. Meaning it will be covered in dew. Also Had you not known what a hibernacula was you should have looked it up as soon as you found out you didn't know instead of making a lame argument not knowing what they were. Clint was just trying to get you to think a little for yourself. Is it possible you might be able to? Google is your friend ya know.
Perhaps it's your inability to correctly read posts? I wish a mod would come and remove your posts. All you've done is troll, act stupid and miss quote me on multiple occasions. I wanted to know why my Drosera wasnt growing, you suggested dormancy depite that the temps are miles above what is needed to trigger dormancy. Then you started talking about my Dionaea, who cares. I want to know about my Drosera not my VFT. Your making your self out to be a person who pretends to know more than they do.
If I am not mistaken these are your two questions right??
1. What is that grass stuff?
2. Why is it not doing very well? I put it out in full sun when I can and its native to the UK so common sense says it would do far better than the other 2 outside, but it isnt. I give all 3 capensis the same treatment but its just the UK capensis that isnt growing. So if you could shed some light on the situation, that would be great.
P.S: You can see the VFT double trap on one of the pics. Just a deformed trap thats all.
Well the first question is asking about grass. Then you get upset when he points out your flawed post and wish the Mods would remove his posts as if his advice was not good enough. I think your the one with the problem. Clint is a senior member and respected member of this community. You are a newbie here and should give a little respect to those who have been a member here for a while. When going back and reading over this thread again your the one who jumped his butt when he was telling you what you didn't want to hear. If you didn't want an answer you shouldn't have asked the question.
If it rains, it rains for praticaly the whole week. Non stop. Meaning, no more dew, leaves die off and finaly, if it is raining, the clouds are black, blotting out sunlight. It may aswell be inside. Not only that, wind will blow the plant off the table, birds will attack them and knock them off the table, and a week in cold weather will fool it into dormancy. Going in and out of dormancy weekly isnt the best thing in the world surley? We harly get good sunlight here, I grow my VFT outside all year round anyway. Trust me, Sundews + Growing outside = Bad
Trust you? Why should we trust you? You obviously have no clue what your doing and you are the one acting as if you do. It is not just cold weather that triggers dormancy. But wait you know how to take care of these plants though! Even with clouds outside there is generally more light outside than in. Get a light meter and check it out if you don't believe me.
The first thing you should have done if you did not know what something was would be to look it up. If you couldn't find it for some reason the you should have asked instead of saying it like you did and jumping Clint stuff because if it. He was only trying to help you, but you wanted to argue with someone. With 2 months under your belt here your making lots of friend. First int he Chatbox with me and then in a thread with Clint.
Also unless your willing to do what it takes to make the proper condition your going to kill the plants. So the advise given by Crissytal is correct. Focus on things you can give the proper condition to or else always have lame dead or dying plants.
Your the reason good grower quit boards like this, because your the ones who think they know everything and then when you ask the question you want to argue with the more experienced grower for telling you something you could have easily found by doing a search.
You went well beyond a healthy debate and started chastising someone for helping you. You don't want to listen and refuse the great help from a great grower.
Dude you need to grow up and learn a little respect.
