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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidyut View Post
    Sigh. This thread <3

    Trying to grow drosophyllum yet again. This time in loose rockwool, because I heard they prefer a higher pH soil and rockwool claims to hold air even when wet and etc.

    If they germinate and survive, the plan is to water sparingly and a bit far from the plant and hope the rockwool doesn't get too soggy at the root ball.

    So far I have tried and failed to germinate drosophyllum 5 times. The seeds just don't germinate. They catch fungus and eventually fungus gnats move in and eat them up (it looks real gross to see fungus gnat larvae come out of the seed you were waiting on for months )

    I've tried cocopeat/sphagnum (very little) + various combinations of sand/perlite/vermiculite/gravel (mostly) and always failed. Also on a lark tried cocopeat and mineral media alone and failed. Rinsed or without rinsing. Always same problem - fungus. On the seed. I have all sorts of other seeds germinate just fine mostly. Drosophyllum always gets fungus. So at this point I figured I have nothing to lose by trying rockwool. Watering it very sparingly from bottom and pressed seed in so it is nicely cocooned.

    So far, no fungus, but no germination either.

    If this doesn't work, next step is going to be using trichoderma to soak the seed before putting on media. If that doesn't work, I'm just going to ask someone with a good drosophyllum collection to adopt me.

    Fingers crossed. This is one plant I really want to grow.
    Did you try ordering seed from Petar Kostov?
    He sells seed on eBay and Facebook. He also runs an online nursery, Telopeanursery.com. He sells and ships internationally.
    I've bought seed from him with good germination results.
    Fresh viable seed makes a big difference.

    BTW, I grow my Drosophyllum in 80% Perlite, 10% Sand, and 10% Peatmoss. I keep it wet/damp until it germinates. Then I top-water it once or twice a week.

    Good growing,
    Mike

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    @Vidyut: Maybe you can find some useful information here (page 2): My Drosophyllum

    I have also had problems with mold/fungus destroying droso seeds before they have a chance to germinate. Having them in an area with good air circulation helps. You don't need a humidity dome over them, they will germinate in normal household humidity and leaving them open to the air can help inhibit fungus growth. Perhaps sowing the seed on wet Long Fiber Sphagnum Moss (the dead stuff) might also help as LFS I am told inhibits fungus/mold from growing. I have successfully germinated droso seed in LFS. I have good success with putting Mosquito Dunks or bits in my water trays, kills fungus gnat larvae. Also, a thin layer of sand as a top layer helps keep gnats from laying eggs in the soil. If you have an outside area protected from rain, you might try sowing droso seeds in uncovered pots outside to see if that helps the fungus problem. In my experience, the seed don't need a lot of light to germinate (but the seedlings do need a lot of light...and food). I wish you all the best in your efforts to grow these awesome plants!

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    @Shadowtsky I purchased seeds from him but they got delayed in the mail and the tracking didn't work. I've seen his site and I just love the way he's written about growing drosophyllum. He refunded me. I'm still hoping to get the seeds and perhaps I can just "buy" them again and he doesn't have to send.
    @DJ57 Thanks! The seeds lasted the longest before succumbing to fungus gnats on sphagnum. But they hadn't germinated. I got mosquito dunks from an Indian seller, but they sort of turn into clay when made wet. Don't recall which batch I'd used them in.

    I suspect the seeds I was using were not so good. Now I have seeds from BCP - Kamil Pasek (Czech Republic) - who seems very knowledgeable as well. Let us see how these fare. I also hope the ones from Petat arrive from whatever shipping warp they got caught in. I'm quite sure he sent them.

    I checked on the seed today and they seem more swollen and there seems to be slight white on one which I'm praying is from germination and not fungus gnats again - though so far I haven't seen any fungus gnats on the rockwool. Besides, it is next to a seedling tray crowded and overflowing with Drosera burmanii. I don't see how the fungus gnats would survive.
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    Did you scarify your seeds?
    This is how I treated my last batch of seeds.
    1: 24 hour soak in distilled water.
    2: Scratch outer seed seed coating on Blunt Rounded End until you see inner white/clear tissue. Use a nail or needle.
    3: Soak seed in distilled water for 24 hours again.
    4: Put seed in growing media 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch 3mm - 4mm deep.
    5: Cover with clear plastic bag until first seed sprouts.

    Mine germinated in 14 days, but they usually take about 4 weeks.

    Good growing,

    Mike

    Drosophyllum germination journals:-drosophyllum-dsc07103_small-jpg

    Drosophyllum germination journals:-drosophyllum-dsc07121_small-jpg

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    I HAZ GERMINATION!!! [Read: Tiny speck of white showing. At first I was terrified it was a fungus gnat, but it ISN'T - it is a future root!!!]

    CONGRATULATIONS YOUGAIS you will soon be uncles and aunties

    Who would have thunk rockwool would work where all else failed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowtski View Post
    Did you scarify your seeds?
    Yes, always. Had tried various ways. Sandpaper, small nick, tip/sides, bleach, GA3, everything. Different soaking times.... but this is the first time I have success. Tiiiiiiiny bit of white showing. No fungus or gnats in sight.

    This is how I treated my last batch of seeds.
    1: 24 hour soak in distilled water.
    2: Scratch outer seed seed coating on Blunt Rounded End until you see inner white/clear tissue. Use a nail or needle.
    3: Soak seed in distilled water for 24 hours again.
    4: Put seed in growing media 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch 3mm - 4mm deep.
    5: Cover with clear plastic bag until first seed sprouts.
    Had tried 1,2,3.

    4 - Never tried covering them. I thought they were always to be sowed on top? Though makes sense - this time, first time I have germination, I've sort of nestled the seeds into the rockwool, though not covered. Could try covering. Next time.

    5 - Doesn't work for my area. Any seeds I cover fare badly. Some germinate, some don't. Drosophyllums get fungus rapidly. I suppose temps are too warm. They want fresh air or they start rotting.

    Mine germinated in 14 days, but they usually take about 4 weeks.
    This speck of white I'm seeing is 11th day from sowing. This is always strange for my germination. If I get germination, it is usually earlier than the internet suggests, or I don't get at all. Very rarely I get later than suggested. Wondering why. Maybe warmer climate? Seeds that like heat germinate fast and rest don't bother?

    Good growing,

    Mike

    Drosophyllum germination journals:-drosophyllum-dsc07103_small-jpg

    Drosophyllum germination journals:-drosophyllum-dsc07121_small-jpg
    I'm total atheist and skeptic, but going to say this anyway. You guys are lucky for me. Started posting here instead of lurking and I finally have drosophyllum germination
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    I'm going to be giving these a go soon as well. First time, so all of the advice here will be really helpful.

    Hopefully I can get it mature enough to get it outside and see how it does here in Vegas.
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    Ah well, that germination didn't happen. Actually, I have no idea what happened. The seeds vanished. One day they were clearly seen on the rockwool, the next day a few disappeared, then a few more.... and then there were none. But a few burmanii next to them also looked like they had been grazed on by some tiny critter. Now wondering if geckos or rats or birds eat drosophyllum seeds... Spent a few weeks wiping my tears. Back to trying again. I've planted seeds again. Not giving up. In cocopeat this time. Thinking of also trying to germinate some in water and transfering to media only if they germinate.
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