I admit I am wildly speculating. But it is a sad fact that the now so-called Los Angeles River is mostly a concrete channel. One of the two “bog”s listed on the old Rancho San Pedro map was along this channel.

>Or do you make a statement and go with the king? Or does Gutterdew have to be loved and hated by all, like capensis?

Yes, the King of England should decide. After all, D. anglica is the 'Great English Sundew'. So funny