my usuall "pay no attentions" formula, keep them in good light, keep the soil moist and give them normal household temps with the fluctuations that go with it(lows of 60, highs of 95 depending on weather, thermostat settings, and how strong the sun is coming in the near by sliding glass door). i have yet to grow them from seed either, ive tried twice. i recieved these two from Copper a couple months back, they were half this size when i recieved them. if you look twords the bottom of the pic, out of focus, you can see a leaf sitting on the soil. im trying to grow it from cuttings. since no one could tell me if it would work or not i decided to just try it. if it works i should be able to send an actual plant your way.