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need an id please!

first, i think this looks like a sanguinea but i dont know what var. it is. also i noticed that the peristome is more ridgid than my other ordinary sanguinea. seems to have a "hip" like all sanguineas but this one is more spotted. any idea gang?

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here is the other one. i have no idea what this is.
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dont know about the first one but the second one reminds me of a N. Pilosa....those leaves are HUGE!!!
alex
 
Don't know what they are but they look nice!
 
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