i think he was playing us JB...spotted Owls(from what i know) are pretty endangered too! Seriously though, Pitcher plants would be good for that! try it with Cephs by first singeing all the haris off and fill it wihth rice and you have a a little rice popper! Helios might be worth a shot... somthing to think about![b said:Quote[/b] (JB_OrchidGuy @ June 14 2006,10:51)]Who's goat you trying to get Bruce. LMAO Eating all those endangered species like that. Shame on you!