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Help! Jumping into Montane plants!
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Well, let's see... I'm sure differences of opinion will surface from other growers, but I'd sayyyy...
'Big Easy'
Capes
and other Cool-growing Dews that can take a bit of heat in the summer
H. 'Tequilla' and other easy Heli hybrids
The U. Bisquitmada's(spelling?) seem to like similar temps cause they flower like crazy
and Tolerant Nepenthes species that can take the cool, winter temps and won't get cooked in the summer such as: Hamata, Epipheata, Inermis as far as I know
Intemediate hybrids on the cool side like Predator, Veitchii x Tiveyi, Spathulata x Maxima, any Ventricosa hybrid and I like most of em ALOT!
And of course, Ceph's. I'd say let it get cool in the winter for a seasonal variance.
I would think all those would do well in the temps you described, the species Neps might not like the summer much, but should pull through and enjoy the winter. It probly would be best to adjust the photoperiod throughout the season though so intermidiate Neps would probly be best.
'Big Easy'
Capes
and other Cool-growing Dews that can take a bit of heat in the summer
H. 'Tequilla' and other easy Heli hybrids
The U. Bisquitmada's(spelling?) seem to like similar temps cause they flower like crazy
and Tolerant Nepenthes species that can take the cool, winter temps and won't get cooked in the summer such as: Hamata, Epipheata, Inermis as far as I know
Intemediate hybrids on the cool side like Predator, Veitchii x Tiveyi, Spathulata x Maxima, any Ventricosa hybrid and I like most of em ALOT!
And of course, Ceph's. I'd say let it get cool in the winter for a seasonal variance.
I would think all those would do well in the temps you described, the species Neps might not like the summer much, but should pull through and enjoy the winter. It probly would be best to adjust the photoperiod throughout the season though so intermidiate Neps would probly be best.
Clint
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Right now the temp is like.. 74 and humidity is 95%. I took off half of the acrylic cover, so we'll see what happens with the humidity and temp. EDIT: now it's 85% humidity and 72 degrees. So far so good. It's weird putting your hand in a terrarium and having it feel cool.
Oh and hamata and inermis? Someone told me those need cooler nights. What about talangensis? I've already got a trade for that cooking up.
Well here's one room in the basement. The entire basement is big and has rooms but no walls, just like... support walls that are like.. well like basement support frames. I dunno what the real word is. OH you can see the kind of walls I mean in the pics below! Duh clint!
Don't laugh at the mess! lol
Oh and hamata and inermis? Someone told me those need cooler nights. What about talangensis? I've already got a trade for that cooking up.
Well here's one room in the basement. The entire basement is big and has rooms but no walls, just like... support walls that are like.. well like basement support frames. I dunno what the real word is. OH you can see the kind of walls I mean in the pics below! Duh clint!
Don't laugh at the mess! lol
Okay Clint, in my crawlspace, under conditions almost exactly like yours (my humidity is slightly lower) I am growing the following:
Utricularia
(Note, reniformis and longifolia are seasonally grown here in the winter and on the deck in the summer.)
Orchidioides
U. alpina (ABG clone)
U. alpina cv. ‘Pittier Moon’
U. alpina “HP1” F2 (from 2006 seed)
U. alpina “Ayuan”
U. alpina (Carniflora, NL clone)
U. asplundii
U. asplundii “Duida, smaller flowers”
U. asplundii “Duida” F2 (from 2006 seed)
U. quelchii “Mt Ilu”
U. quelchii (Sonja Clone)
U. quelchii “Mount Rorima”
U. campbelliana
U. endresii
U. endresii "Cerro Nada, Atelopus varius site, Costa Rica, 250m"
U. endresii (Gert clone)
U. praetermissa
U. praetermissa "Costa Rica"
U. praetermissa (Gert clone)
U. jamesoniana “Represa el Penol, Antioquia, Colombia, 1900m”
U. jamesoniana “Duida”
U. cv. ‘Jitka’ (praetermisa x quelchii)
U. alpina x endresii
U. humboldtii x quelchii
U. alpina x humboldtii (from 2005 seed, not confirmed by bloom yet)
U. alpina x asplundii (from 2006 seed, not confirmed by bloom yet)
Iperua
U. reniformis “Large form”
U. reniformis “Small form” (Vic clone)
U. reniformis “Small form” (Gert clone)
U. reniformis cv. ‘Enfant Terrible’
U. reniformis cv. ‘Big Sister’
U. humboldtii “Large Form”
U. humboldtii “Mt Neblina”
U. humboldtii (Phil Faulisi clone)
U. nelumbifolia
U. nephrophylla “white flower”
U. geminiloba
Terrestrial
U. longifolia
Nepenthes
N. hamata
N. jaquelineae (BE clone)
N. lowii (BE clone)
N. lowii TAHBWG TC
N. lowii “Gunung Mulu” (Wistuba)
N. diatas
N. inermis
N. gymnamphora
N. glabrata
N. spathulata
N. rajah (ABG clones TC1-7)
N. caranculata (Wistuba)
N. spec. nova Sumatra (Wistuba)
N. spec. nova Sumatra 2A (Wistuba)
N. stenophylla TAHBWG
N. aristolochioides
N. bongso “Gunung Merapi, Sumatra”
N. x Gentle
N. muluensis x lowii
N. ABG 96-100 Gunung Kimiri 2800m
N. ABG unknown
N. ABG unknown
N. ABG unknown
Heliamphora
H. heterodoxa “Ptari Tepui”
H. nutans (T. Carrow clone)
H. chimantensis
H. nutans “Yuruani Tepui” TAHBWG TC
H. nutans (Wistuba)
H. folliculata “Murosipan Tepui”
H. hispida
H. pulchella “Chimanta Tepui
H. glabra “S. Do Sol, Guyana”
H. sarracenioides clone 1
Drosera
Tuberous (some are dormant and some are seedlings)
D. stolonifera (BestCP clone)
D. orbiculata
D. platypoda
D. macrantha ssp. macrantha
D. macrantha “Wogan Hills form”
D. peltata TAHBWG TC 1
D. menziesii TAHBWG TC 1
D. zonaria TAHBWG TC 1
D. ramellosa (from Phill Mann seed)
D. ramellosa “Rust red w/ pink flowers”
D. erythrorhiza aff. squamosa “Scott River”
D. aff. moorei “scrambling, produces dropper tubers”
D. unknown tuberous “purple tuber”
-
D. unknown tuberous “red tuber”
-Possibly D. menziesii ssp. thysanosepala (as ID’d by Sean Spence)
D. unknown tuberous “orange tuber”
-Possibly D. tubaestylis (as ID’d by Sean Spence)
D. erythrogyne
D. erythrorhiza ssp. magna
D. intricate
D. humilis
D. porrecta “Northern form”
D. purpurascens
D. rupicola “Red”
D. stolonifera “Giant Hills Form”
D. browniana
D. macrophylla ssp. monantha
D. peltata aff. foliosa “Arampians, VIC”
D. peltata var. gracilis “Anglesea, VIC”
D. peltata var. gracilis “Alpine Form, Tuggeranong, ACT”
D. peltata var. foliosa “Dwarf Form, Kuipto, S.A.”
D. peltata var. peltata “Brisbane Ranges, VIC”
D. macrantha ssp. planchonii “Onkaparinga River National Park, S.A”
D. menziesii “orange” x menziesii “purple”
D. whittakerii ssp. whittakerii “Onkaparinga National Park, S.A.”
D. whittakerii ssp. aberrans “Arampians National Park, VIC”
D. stricticaulis
D. auriculata “Red Form, Mt William, Grampians National Park”
D. erythrorhiza ssp. squamosa “laterite growing form, Brookton W.A.”
D. aff. macrantha “northern heathland red form, Mogumber, W.A.”
D. myriantha “Scott River W.A.”
D. pallida “giant all green form, Burns Beach W.A”
D. aff. pallida “South coast form, Scott River, W.A”
D. platypoda “Willyung W.A.”
D. porrecta “giant to 45cm, Coolup W.A.”
D. prostrata “ Binnu W.A."
D. platypoda “red plants, Betty’s Beach, WA”
South American
D. graminifolia TAHBWG TC
D. meristocaulis TAHBWG TC
D. chrysolepis TAHBWG TC
D. montana TAHBWG TC
Australian
D. schizandra
D. prolifera
D. adelae “giant red”
South African
D. regia (Lois clone)
D. regia cv. ‘Big Easy’
D. regia TAHBWG TC R1
D. regia TAHBWG TC R2
D. regia TAHBWG TC R3
D. slackii
D. cistiflora "Purple Flower"
D. cistiflora "stocky plants" (seedlings)
Cephalotus
So I am going to say with a large degree of confidence that you should be able to grow any cool loving species and most any highlander except for the ultras.
Of course my level of experience is different than yours so your results may vary.
Utricularia
(Note, reniformis and longifolia are seasonally grown here in the winter and on the deck in the summer.)
Orchidioides
U. alpina (ABG clone)
U. alpina cv. ‘Pittier Moon’
U. alpina “HP1” F2 (from 2006 seed)
U. alpina “Ayuan”
U. alpina (Carniflora, NL clone)
U. asplundii
U. asplundii “Duida, smaller flowers”
U. asplundii “Duida” F2 (from 2006 seed)
U. quelchii “Mt Ilu”
U. quelchii (Sonja Clone)
U. quelchii “Mount Rorima”
U. campbelliana
U. endresii
U. endresii "Cerro Nada, Atelopus varius site, Costa Rica, 250m"
U. endresii (Gert clone)
U. praetermissa
U. praetermissa "Costa Rica"
U. praetermissa (Gert clone)
U. jamesoniana “Represa el Penol, Antioquia, Colombia, 1900m”
U. jamesoniana “Duida”
U. cv. ‘Jitka’ (praetermisa x quelchii)
U. alpina x endresii
U. humboldtii x quelchii
U. alpina x humboldtii (from 2005 seed, not confirmed by bloom yet)
U. alpina x asplundii (from 2006 seed, not confirmed by bloom yet)
Iperua
U. reniformis “Large form”
U. reniformis “Small form” (Vic clone)
U. reniformis “Small form” (Gert clone)
U. reniformis cv. ‘Enfant Terrible’
U. reniformis cv. ‘Big Sister’
U. humboldtii “Large Form”
U. humboldtii “Mt Neblina”
U. humboldtii (Phil Faulisi clone)
U. nelumbifolia
U. nephrophylla “white flower”
U. geminiloba
Terrestrial
U. longifolia
Nepenthes
N. hamata
N. jaquelineae (BE clone)
N. lowii (BE clone)
N. lowii TAHBWG TC
N. lowii “Gunung Mulu” (Wistuba)
N. diatas
N. inermis
N. gymnamphora
N. glabrata
N. spathulata
N. rajah (ABG clones TC1-7)
N. caranculata (Wistuba)
N. spec. nova Sumatra (Wistuba)
N. spec. nova Sumatra 2A (Wistuba)
N. stenophylla TAHBWG
N. aristolochioides
N. bongso “Gunung Merapi, Sumatra”
N. x Gentle
N. muluensis x lowii
N. ABG 96-100 Gunung Kimiri 2800m
N. ABG unknown
N. ABG unknown
N. ABG unknown
Heliamphora
H. heterodoxa “Ptari Tepui”
H. nutans (T. Carrow clone)
H. chimantensis
H. nutans “Yuruani Tepui” TAHBWG TC
H. nutans (Wistuba)
H. folliculata “Murosipan Tepui”
H. hispida
H. pulchella “Chimanta Tepui
H. glabra “S. Do Sol, Guyana”
H. sarracenioides clone 1
Drosera
Tuberous (some are dormant and some are seedlings)
D. stolonifera (BestCP clone)
D. orbiculata
D. platypoda
D. macrantha ssp. macrantha
D. macrantha “Wogan Hills form”
D. peltata TAHBWG TC 1
D. menziesii TAHBWG TC 1
D. zonaria TAHBWG TC 1
D. ramellosa (from Phill Mann seed)
D. ramellosa “Rust red w/ pink flowers”
D. erythrorhiza aff. squamosa “Scott River”
D. aff. moorei “scrambling, produces dropper tubers”
D. unknown tuberous “purple tuber”
-
D. unknown tuberous “red tuber”
-Possibly D. menziesii ssp. thysanosepala (as ID’d by Sean Spence)
D. unknown tuberous “orange tuber”
-Possibly D. tubaestylis (as ID’d by Sean Spence)
D. erythrogyne
D. erythrorhiza ssp. magna
D. intricate
D. humilis
D. porrecta “Northern form”
D. purpurascens
D. rupicola “Red”
D. stolonifera “Giant Hills Form”
D. browniana
D. macrophylla ssp. monantha
D. peltata aff. foliosa “Arampians, VIC”
D. peltata var. gracilis “Anglesea, VIC”
D. peltata var. gracilis “Alpine Form, Tuggeranong, ACT”
D. peltata var. foliosa “Dwarf Form, Kuipto, S.A.”
D. peltata var. peltata “Brisbane Ranges, VIC”
D. macrantha ssp. planchonii “Onkaparinga River National Park, S.A”
D. menziesii “orange” x menziesii “purple”
D. whittakerii ssp. whittakerii “Onkaparinga National Park, S.A.”
D. whittakerii ssp. aberrans “Arampians National Park, VIC”
D. stricticaulis
D. auriculata “Red Form, Mt William, Grampians National Park”
D. erythrorhiza ssp. squamosa “laterite growing form, Brookton W.A.”
D. aff. macrantha “northern heathland red form, Mogumber, W.A.”
D. myriantha “Scott River W.A.”
D. pallida “giant all green form, Burns Beach W.A”
D. aff. pallida “South coast form, Scott River, W.A”
D. platypoda “Willyung W.A.”
D. porrecta “giant to 45cm, Coolup W.A.”
D. prostrata “ Binnu W.A."
D. platypoda “red plants, Betty’s Beach, WA”
South American
D. graminifolia TAHBWG TC
D. meristocaulis TAHBWG TC
D. chrysolepis TAHBWG TC
D. montana TAHBWG TC
Australian
D. schizandra
D. prolifera
D. adelae “giant red”
South African
D. regia (Lois clone)
D. regia cv. ‘Big Easy’
D. regia TAHBWG TC R1
D. regia TAHBWG TC R2
D. regia TAHBWG TC R3
D. slackii
D. cistiflora "Purple Flower"
D. cistiflora "stocky plants" (seedlings)
Cephalotus
So I am going to say with a large degree of confidence that you should be able to grow any cool loving species and most any highlander except for the ultras.
Of course my level of experience is different than yours so your results may vary.
Clint
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Not really. Only have 2 55G a 30G a 20G long a 10g and 2 trays. One 400W HID light on a 2m track
Clint
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JB_OrchidGuy
Cardiac Nurse
Clint. Just to tell you. I am growing a ramispina outside right now and I have had it for 2 years now. I treat it just like all my other nepenthes. It is still a small thing, but it keeps getting bigger and doesn;t look like it is hurting to much from this treatment. So I think some HL are easier than you think.
Clint
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Someone just sent me their entire growlist, told me to pick through and he'll trade me almost anything for 3 of my plants. Could you tell me how these would do in the summer with a night temp of 65, day temp of 72-74?
8. N. fusca (Sarawak)
22. N. stenophylla (Bareo
25. N. tobiaca
32. N. veitchii (H/L x L/L)
22. N. veitchii x hurrelliana
24. N. ventricosa (Red) x talangensis
8. N. fusca (Sarawak)
22. N. stenophylla (Bareo
25. N. tobiaca
32. N. veitchii (H/L x L/L)
22. N. veitchii x hurrelliana
24. N. ventricosa (Red) x talangensis
glider14
Always a newbie
Clint
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