Local nursery got Nepenthes in!

[agunn1231]

Man, cannot find these anywhere in denver, i was just out and about looking all over town on sunday.


Well, i went on an adventure from Denver to Fort Collins today and got one of these....i will keep looking at this thread for further info on what to do with it now.

[xQuinnx]

That's an awesome find! I haven't been able to find any Nepenthes (or any other cp) around here except sometimes in little cubes at lowe's =/.

[swords]

i will keep looking at this thread for further info on what to do with it now.

Earlier I wrote:

Get that thing under some bright light, high humidity and warmth and watch it color up and blast off!

Super easy plant will grow feet in length over the year if you have warm conditions. Bright light and high humidity brings out nice colorful pitchers.

[seedjar]

The Deroose 'N. alata' is N. ventrata

Interesting - you're definitely the most knowledgeable person I've seen weigh in on the matter. It's alata x ventricosa? Or are ventrata backcrosses stable enough that it just doesn't matter?
~Joe

[Kyle]

Hmmm, well it turns out it is in fact a DeRoose plant. Now to find out what it actually is!

In other news! (Sorry, agunn, you were just out here, >.<; )
Encouraged by one of the local nurseries here having the above plant, I went to another today (Fort Collins Nursery, for anyone in the area) and got myself a huge (what I'm guessing is) Nepenthes "Miranda". It was one of four there. I chose the one with the healthiest-looking leaves, even though it only had two pitchers where the others had around half a dozen. The leaves look good for the most part, though, and there are a lot of pitchers on the way, assuming it doesn't now abort them all. The larger of the two pitchers on the plant is a good 8" I'd guess. It's really encouraging to see some local nurseries getting some decent plants in, especially outside of death cubes. It's late and I gotta get up early, but pics tomorrow. ^.^

[seedjar]

You probably made the right choice on the Miranda. As long as you avoid any really major flubs it should be looking spectacular in no time.
~Joe

[Tony Paroubek]

Interesting - you're definitely the most knowledgeable person I've seen weigh in on the matter. It's alata x ventricosa? Or are ventrata backcrosses stable enough that it just doesn't matter?
~Joe

Hi Joe,

Deroose never lets any info go on what their plants are comprised of other than they have a history of using the female parent's name. So most likely it was a N. alata x ?
Based on the time frame when N. ventrata was registered (1979) and some of the more common Nepenthes species got back into cultivation (1970's). It is most probable that the Deroose N. ventrata which has been available in garden centers etc worldwide since the early 1980's is simply N. alata x ventricosa.

So I can't say for 100% certainty that the Deroose plant is N. alata x ventricosa and not N. alata x ventrata. It doesn't make sense though to be the latter. I don't think there is enough time to make the latter cross and start distributing thousands of full grown plants worldwide. Don't forget even before they started shipping plants they ran trials and grew many clones to find the one they wanted to use for large scale production. I am not certain how the idea came about that it was N. alata x ventrata. Probably someone said something on a forum because they think it looks more N. alata like. Personally I don't see it at all, either in the plant or the pitchers. If indeed it is N. alata x ventricosa this might explain the more N. alata appearance some people perceive? Or maybe the N. alata used had a much more dramatic shape to the pitcher? Either way there is no evidence that it is N. alata x ventrata and any available evidence points to it being simply N. alata x ventricosa.
Hope that helps! guess that was a bit more than a couple pennies worth hehe

Tony

[swords]

got myself a huge (what I'm guessing is) Nepenthes "Miranda".

N. Miranda is a nice grower for warm, humid and bright conditions too. Hefty 14" pitchers on a 4 ft+ diameter plant even under metal halides! A nice N. Miranda is a great looking plant if you have the room. Too bad the commercially available male N. Mirandas are sterile...

I also had from them:
N. Gentle
N. Velvet

But I haven't seen the last two available anywhere for a long time.