Now that is more like it. 
I like this list. Those are plants on my dream list as well.
I like this list. Those are plants on my dream list as well.TerraForums Venus Flytrap, Nepenthes, Drosera and more talk
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most sought-after/valuable nepenthes in the hobby?
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Thank Vraev. This is my wish list as well... slowly getting there. Let me know if you have some additions or suggestions.
@rattler I didn't know there was a negative connotation about Nepenthes hybrids. I think there is alot to learn about Nepenthes growing species and natural hybrids so I usually try to keep to those. Every grower has there niche.
@Talie... definitely need to add Nepenthes peltata. Hmm right between clipeata and aristo seems like a good fit. Updated the list. I also forgot about glaundlifera... I will add that between naga and eymae.
@rattler I didn't know there was a negative connotation about Nepenthes hybrids. I think there is alot to learn about Nepenthes growing species and natural hybrids so I usually try to keep to those. Every grower has there niche.
@Talie... definitely need to add Nepenthes peltata. Hmm right between clipeata and aristo seems like a good fit. Updated the list. I also forgot about glaundlifera... I will add that between naga and eymae.
- Nepenthes × harryana (villosa x edwardsiana) - seed
- Nepenthes × kinabaluensis (villosa x rajah) - seed
- Nepenthes sp. "Sulawesi"
- Nepenthes sp. "Palawan"
- Nepenthes pitopangii - Not Certain this is in culvation
- Nepenthes x Alisaputrana (burbidgeae x rajah) - seed
- Nepenthes klossi
- Nepenthes attenboroughii - seed
- Nepenthes hurreliana - seed not tc
- Nepenthes edwardsiana - seed
- Nepenthes clipeata - seed
- Nepenthes peltata - seed
- Nepenthes aristolochiodies - seed
- Nepenthes x trusmadiensis - seed
- Nepenthes villosa - seed
- Nepenthes lamii - seed
- Nepenthes rigidifolia - (tc or seed)
- Nepenthes hamata 'hairy yellow or red' - seed
- Nepenthes rajah - seed
- Nepenthes flava - seed
- Nepenthes naga - tc or seed
- Nepenthes glandulifera - tc or seed
- Nepenthes eymae - 'True Species' - seed
- Nepenthes macrophylla - seed
- Nepenthes jamban - seed
- Nepenthes hamata - typical or new location seed
- Nepenthes ephipiata - seed
- Nepenthes bokorensis - seed
some seem to think pure species are some how superior and seem to forget that some of todays species are actually stabilized hybrids and that hybrids happen regularly in the wild......bout once a year someone starts a thread saying how the hybridizers will be the end of pure species and seem to forget that neps have been being hybridized in greenhouses for 150 years or better and it hasnt wiped out interest in species yet.....
Sorry Listserv.org you are still not welcome here.
Andrew
Andrew
seedjar
Let's positive thinking!
Very true. I think it's easy for some less-informed enthusiasts to miss the (very fuzzy) difference between manmade hybrids and naturally occurring hybrids, as well as the fact that there is only a very vague distinction in biology between species and natural hybrids. I can understand how the heaps of manmade hybrids and named cultivars might seem like a bad thing to folks who place a priority on preserving natural lineages, though. I feel that way a little, and to look at cultivated plants like orchids, Rhododendrons, or tulips, it's easy to get a feeling that the sky is falling. Heck, I even feel that way about martial arts schools. (If I had a dollar for every shmuck that left a real school to start their own "contemporary" style...)
~Joe
nothing that hasnt been in place since they were first brought back to European greenhouses.....if anything its much easier to get a large number of species now than any time in history......always gonna be an interest in pure species.....problem most dont seem to get with the whole seed grown versus TC thing is do you want to see these plants protected in the wild or do you want to collect.....plenty off ppl growing that are perfectly happy to make pure species seed if they have plants bloom with each other......lots of hybrids cause most dont bother or care to have multiple clones and hate to see a flower stalk go to waste.....
course most of the detractors of TC plants aswell have very lil experience with TC plants in general.....ive probably handled larger numbers of TC plants than most cause i worked in a retail greenhouse.....most the bedding plants and such you buy for your yard are TC.....having dealt with multiple hundreds of thousands of TC and seed grown plants over the years, you are far more likely to get a weak seed grown plant than TC plant if the producer does their job....
when i look at the arguments for pure species only and seed grown only all i see is some ppl who want to think they are some how superior to others and has nothing to do with the plants themselves.....
course most of the detractors of TC plants aswell have very lil experience with TC plants in general.....ive probably handled larger numbers of TC plants than most cause i worked in a retail greenhouse.....most the bedding plants and such you buy for your yard are TC.....having dealt with multiple hundreds of thousands of TC and seed grown plants over the years, you are far more likely to get a weak seed grown plant than TC plant if the producer does their job....
when i look at the arguments for pure species only and seed grown only all i see is some ppl who want to think they are some how superior to others and has nothing to do with the plants themselves.....
Haha, I thought this talk of the "value" of plants sounded familiar
