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Show off your new ventricosa X hamata hybrids!

  • #101
Old pitcher and new one.

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  • #102
Does ventricosa add much temperature tolerance, or do they still need pretty strict highland conditions?
 
  • #103
Mine is growing as an intermediate/lowland in low humidity but it's pretty new, this is the first pitcher in my care.
 
  • #104
Does ventricosa add much temperature tolerance, or do they still need pretty strict highland conditions?
do you think hamata needs strict highland temps,mine seems to do fine kinda intermediate (hope i have not spoken too soon)
 
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  • #105
my vent x hamata has a much darker peristome than that one. this pitcher just opened up and the ones in back show the color they end up


i cant speaak to the temp tolerance but this sucker is very fast growing and vigorous. now has 3 growth points and will be a bush in no time at all




 
  • #106
do you think hamata needs strict highland temps,mine seems to do fine kinda intermediate (hope i have not spoken too soon)

I don't have any hands-on experience with them but they seem to have a reputation for it. My climate is not highlander friendly so I only have a few hardy lowland and intermediate Neps.
 
  • #107
^Same clone Myles, just different growing conditions. I grow all my plants outside so it takes time for them to adapt and thrive.

Here's my other clone, I actually like this one much better but it hasn't pitchered in my care yet.

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  • #108
how is it the same clone if mine is a seed grown plant?

wow that one's pitcher body is so different with its lack of color!
 
  • #109
Oh cool, good for you, I meant to say it had the same dark pitchers when it arrived.
 
  • #110
Wow máxima that's a toothy and green pitcher! Is it an intermediate?
 
  • #111
Ngantnier, previous owner had them both in a controlled highland setup like most people, I think they do better like that. Red one is doing fine in my intermediate conditions, the green one has put out a few leaves but no pitcher yet. It's only been about 45 days though so with this much development already I'm sure they will adapt quickly.
 
  • #112
Wow no one has talked about a vent x hamata since then...I guess this isn't a popular plant at all.

My plants have been growing and since then I've realized there's no green form of this plant and if there is, I certainly don't have it. My green plant -once put into sunlight- has turned red and is now identical to the red form. Honestly they are probably the same plant...

"green" one:

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This red form grew much bigger while the other kept making basals,

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  • #113
Wow it kinda looks like a regular Hamata when it was younger..except the perisome was kinda a mash up of both nep types.

Now its got that tubby vent looking body with the hamata colors and a thicker perisome with spikey teeth inside. And some with the hamata shaped perisome with some crooked spikes pointing inside.

Prob one of the better hamata crosses I've seen. Beey nice they look very happy
 
  • #114
We'll, at least this is one of those hybrids that ventricosa doesn't COMRPLETELY take over.
 
  • #115
Wow no one has talked about a vent x hamata since then...I guess this isn't a popular plant at all.

I don't think this is an unpopular hybrid - I expect it's more that people get very excited every time a new hamata hybrid appears in commerce, and it becomes The It Girl for its fifteen minutes, and is then ignored. Wait and see if this isn't how robcantleyi X hamata gets treated! LOL

Theres nothing wrong with this plant at all - in fact, it's one of the better hamata hybrids of the lot. (The singalana cross turned out to be weak and relatively uninteresting) I would say this is one of the more attractive hamata hybrids, and has the distinct advantage of being fairly compact and restrained, unlike that brute N. Predator, which can produce four feet of vine in a year, and which is also less colorful than the ventricosa cross.

Your plants look very healthy. Nicely grown! Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
 
  • #116
It's a good plant. Easy, reliable, colorful.
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  • #117
The peristome on this cross is so impressive.
 
  • #118
I'm guessing that nepenthes burkei x Hamata would look something like this....
 
  • #119
Thank you guys. Thanks Whimgrinder, appreciate the info. Best part for me is they are quite vigorous in low humidity. First they both died back down to a basal and then those basals jumped right into an almost aggressive growth. I have about 30 nep species but out of all those, these plants - along with albomarginata (red), vent x sibu and maxima (tentena) are the only ones that keep growing and making pitchers all year. I am sure they would look much better in a greenhouse but I really cannot complain as a poor windowsill grower.

I recognize you from that nepenthes thread now, you had some amazing plants. Are these pitchers of vent x hamata you're holding their max size or do they grow bigger ? I assume you must have seen them at their best.
 
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