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Nepenthes naga ? Post and compare your plants here.
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mato
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Wire Man
Sphagnum Guru
Wire Man
Sphagnum Guru
I think it's always going to be a bit risky buying seed grown "species", because the person who raised the plants is rarely the same person who collected the seed, so there is a weak link in the chain, and no guarantee that your plant is going to be true to species. While some will be disappointed to end up with a hybrid, I'm more inclined to enjoy seeing the mystery unfold, whether its a true species or a naturally-occurring hybrid. I'm just grateful to have the opportunity to raise a genetically unique plant, in a hobby where many of the plants we have access to are tissue cultured; not always a good thing, IMO.
Wire Man
Sphagnum Guru
Well the weather has been very overcast for weeks on end it seems. We had a little break in the clouds today so I tried to get some photos.
General observations..
Some of the plants had a little reddish color and some were more greenish. I couldn't tell any difference between them as far as leaf shapes that might indicate possible hybridization.
Same was true of pitcher color and shape. Although clearly it is important to consider the size and age of the plant and age of the pitchers, which isn't always so easy to do when looking at a single photo of just a pitcher. Younger plants and more juvenile pitchers appeared to be more tubular and less tubby. Pitchers open fairly light in color and can get quite dark with age although this appears to be somewhat variable in how dark. All of my plants had a little fuzz on the leaf edge although it is sometimes hard to see and I didn't specifically try to take a photo. There was not alot of ruffling of the lid although a little could be seen. This would typically be a more mature feature along with any crests and projections under the lid as well as final leaf tip morphology, so I would expect these to change still as the plants age. I did find it interesting that some plants had a clear projection forming under the tip of the lid while others had only a minor bump, if that. Perhaps it is just species variation? If I recall correctly some photos I have seen from the wild show plants with varying degrees in the prominence of the 'toothy' projection. I guess it remains to be seen if plants showing little projection will develop it over time.
plant 1
plant 1 pitcher
plant 1 pitcher lid close up
plant 2 pitchers new on the left older on the right
plant 2 newer pitcher close up
plant 3 pitcher. A really dark clone
plant 3 pitcher close up. (easier to see the forked 'tongue' in the other photo.. oh well)
plant 4 smaller plant about half the size of the previous 3.
plant 4 older aged pitcher to show color
plant 4 younger pitcher
plant 5 one of the larger plants with a very big pitcher and light color..
plant 5 pitcher
plant 5 pitcher close up
leaf edge
couple of leaf tips
General observations..
Some of the plants had a little reddish color and some were more greenish. I couldn't tell any difference between them as far as leaf shapes that might indicate possible hybridization.
Same was true of pitcher color and shape. Although clearly it is important to consider the size and age of the plant and age of the pitchers, which isn't always so easy to do when looking at a single photo of just a pitcher. Younger plants and more juvenile pitchers appeared to be more tubular and less tubby. Pitchers open fairly light in color and can get quite dark with age although this appears to be somewhat variable in how dark. All of my plants had a little fuzz on the leaf edge although it is sometimes hard to see and I didn't specifically try to take a photo. There was not alot of ruffling of the lid although a little could be seen. This would typically be a more mature feature along with any crests and projections under the lid as well as final leaf tip morphology, so I would expect these to change still as the plants age. I did find it interesting that some plants had a clear projection forming under the tip of the lid while others had only a minor bump, if that. Perhaps it is just species variation? If I recall correctly some photos I have seen from the wild show plants with varying degrees in the prominence of the 'toothy' projection. I guess it remains to be seen if plants showing little projection will develop it over time.
plant 1
plant 1 pitcher
plant 1 pitcher lid close up
plant 2 pitchers new on the left older on the right
plant 2 newer pitcher close up
plant 3 pitcher. A really dark clone
plant 3 pitcher close up. (easier to see the forked 'tongue' in the other photo.. oh well)
plant 4 smaller plant about half the size of the previous 3.
plant 4 older aged pitcher to show color
plant 4 younger pitcher
plant 5 one of the larger plants with a very big pitcher and light color..
plant 5 pitcher
plant 5 pitcher close up
leaf edge
couple of leaf tips
BioZest
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mato
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Same batch of seed. I don't know if they were collected from more than one female plant though. I guess the possibility exists that seed from several plants was collected and combined. Sometimes I get the actual pod and it's easy to tell the seed is from a single source and other times I just get a packet of seed and it's not as clear. I don't recall exactly if these seed arrived in a pod or not. That is something my notes don't indicate and probably something I should keep track of from now on!
BioZest
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Great pics Tony. It's good to see several of these from one batch all together. I personally think that this species is just very variable, especially in color and we're seeing this as expressed in all of our seedlings. All the telltale signs of N.naga seem to be present on all of them.
Here's the latest pitcher on mine. The appendage is smaller on this one than the last one but I'm starting to get the frilly lid.
Here's the latest pitcher on mine. The appendage is smaller on this one than the last one but I'm starting to get the frilly lid.
Dexenthes
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