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    I'm curious, what is your reason for removing the seed coat?

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    Even in the first set of photos there was one that clearly showed two leaves, so these are dicotyledonous, which does discredit what craigam claimed, but the second set of photos, more clearly representing what the seedlings look like, continue to suggest these are not Nepenthes. Cotyledon tips are more rounded than any Nepenthes I have ever sprouted or seen sprout, and the thickness is also unmatching. The young stem, as I mentioned before, is also reminiscent of that of young legumes, and the first photo of this second set shows the translucent seed coat they are germinating from, which not only lacks the wings present on all Nepenthes seeds (except N. pervillei, which I can guarantee the Nepenthes seeds here are not as those are also visible in the photos aside from the claim of N. eymae) but do not match the thickness, shape, or texture of Nepenthes seed appearances. I would not be surprised if they end up producing something along the lines of an Oxalis species or relative.

    Yes, Lechenaultia, the title of your thread is "how old is too old," but identifying what is actually sprouting, which is at this point 99% certainly not Nepenthes seeds, is part of that; though you have old Nepenthes seeds on the soil, the fact that they are not what is germinating answers the question. Additionally, while one question is asked, sometimes it is not the question that truly needs the answer.
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    I think identification of the plants being discussed is important because this thread is discussing the viability of Nepenthes seeds specifically. Maybe not specifically mentioned in your thread title, but definitely in your first post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lechenaultia View Post
    I have often heard the viability of Nepenthes seed is quite short. It might be the fact when it came to the Lowlanders?
    What is your experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adnedarn View Post
    I think identification of the plants being discussed is important because this thread is discussing the viability of Nepenthes seeds specifically. Maybe not specifically mentioned in your thread title, but definitely in your first post.
    Dear Andrew-san

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    If the members discuss the seed's viability comparison between lowland species and intermediate species (or highland), it might be interesting. But If the members want further discussion of the ID (Nepenthes or legume), .... a waste of time...
    I autoclaved the soil in the plastic container, where I sowed the Nepenthes seeds .120 degrees C, 20 minutes
    I did not use my lamina flow bench (HITACHI CCV clean bench), But I do not think any seed of legume was floating (or drifting) in the room, when I sowed the seeds.
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    From 2013 is "old" but it appears, not too old for your methods and skill. I have had experience with intermediate/highlander seeds that were up to 1.5 years. Perhaps most of us have with some of the old seeds from (ebay). I have had fairly good success with them personally but no experience with anything older than that. Lowlanders that i have sowed have always been at least < 6 months. I consider them "fresh" in this range because of the success i have had in sowing them. I haven't had the chance to try with anything older than that in the way of lowlanders. Thank you for sharing your experience.
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    Lechenaultia,

    Ah, interesting! It seems these seeds have been treated somewhat differently then we're all used to seeing. From removing the seed coat to covering the seeds. But with the more detailed information that you have done those things, and the steps you took to sowing these seeds (autoclaving the media for example) does remove a lot of the doubt in my mind. Sorry I don't have any experiences in sowing old Nepenthes seeds of any kinds to add to the conversation.

    legume floating in the room, too funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimbulan View Post
    I'm curious, what is your reason for removing the seed coat?
    I'm curious too. Do you see any benefit of doing so for TC?
    I'm never able to get 100% sterilisation of Nep seeds, always have some fungus in at least a few seeds. Does removing the seed coat allow a better treatment?

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    The seed peeling thing is very interesting, especially considering how thing and small nepenthes seed are. Perhaps this could cause the seedlings to look different upon germination, assuming they are in fact nepenthes?

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