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    Looking good?

    I got my first nepenthes about two years ago. A sanguinea. I struggled a little with finding the right conditions for it (and it suffered badly while I learned off the poor thing), and eventually found its home under a grow light in my bedroom. It sits in a decently humid location in the house (considering its in the house), and seems happy. Is pitchering well, and it threw off two basal shoots since then.

    Last December I decided to go a little tougher, and got a n. petiolata x vogelii, made a small terrarium and put it under its own growlight in my office.

    Here's it when I installed it, along with a few small ferns:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/d5WyTURUsgppE9Ao9
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vU2sacchiVSkFeCq8

    And here it is about five months later:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/8JksR9M9VmTtpqg19
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/FeeZAR4o7eheLJRo6

    I've spent the past few months slowly removing the cover, getting it acclimated to less and less humidity. Eventually it will outgrow its container, and I'd like to have it not be in a terrarium at that point if possible. Here's what it looks like now (surrounded in live sphagnum moss too):
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/s6ViVT9fWcfCJbwo8

    I think I'm doing a good job with it, but I don't have much experience with nepenthes, so I was hoping for a second opinion. It appears to be getting a little more reddish in the leaves than most photos I see of greenhouse grown nepenthes (and than when it arrived 9 months ago). Too much light? It seems to be growing well, and pitchering nicely, so I assume its doing good with my acclimation to less humidity. Any thoughts?

    I've enjoyed it so much I've got a Pink Candy Cane (Nepenthes "Song of Melancholy" x veitchii) and a burkei x hamata on its way. I was hoping to have both of them grow next to my sanguinea (after I give them some adjustment time), and not in a terrarium, if possible. We'll see though. If they need it, one or more can be companions (or replacements) to the petiolata x vogelii in the office terrarium.

    Thanks for the thoughts
    Last edited by specialkayme; 08-31-2020 at 04:34 PM.

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    Your photo links don't seem to be going anywhere. Based on what you describe it does sound like everything is growing well. A light reddening is a fine response to high light levels. Both of the hybrids you've chosen are easy to grow and should be easy to adjust to household conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post
    Your photo links don't seem to be going anywhere.
    Hmm. Ok, sorry. Try the links now.

    The attachment manager on the forum wouldn't let any of the photos be uploaded, so I'm trying a workaround.

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    That looks fine. I'd skip the terrariums all together going foward. It's possible to adapt most species to pretty low humidity. For all the things you have and are planning to get they should be perfectly happy in the open air. I've grown a lot of species and hybrids in humidity around 20%

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    Thanks Grey Moss!

    The person I was talking to at petflytrap.com STRONGLY suggested a terrarium for the petiolata x vogelii. Which was fine, and I understand most people that probably buy their first nepenthes kill it and get pissed at the retailer. A small terrarium to increase temp and humidity is a good way to reduce potential plant loss (or if the customer refuses, blame the customer for not following directions). When I asked if it was possible to slowly acclimate it to not having a cover, she seemed hesitant that it could work. Which is why I spent 9 months slowly peeling the cover back. I guess I could have just ripped the bandaid off, lol.

    Do you find some of the nepenthes drop their pitchers, or refuse to pitcher at all at low, say 20%, humidity? Any good methods to counteract that?

    Do you have any suggestions on getting some species to adapt to low humidity straight from the supplier? I know most of them are grown at the supplier at fairly high temp and humidity, and they'll be undergoing some transplant/shipping shock initially. I'm assuming creating a small bag type terrarium to increase humidity, and very low intensity light, and over a few weeks slowly peel back the bag and move it closer to the light. Anything you'd recommend otherwise?

    Thanks for the help. It's fun to look through all the photos of the beautiful nepenthes, knowing I'm keeping two alive, thinking of all the others I could get. At least until I see the price tag of, and hear how difficult some of the edwardsiana or veitchii are

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    A few groups of nepenthes will not pitcher at all in very low humidity and just require more humid conditions. With adapting nepenthes all there is, is time. I've never bothers with bagging a nepenthes unless it was something freshly out of tissue culture, which you won't encounter from a nursery.

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    I've got both petiolata and vogellii growing at regular household humidity, so I'd imagine the hybrid can probably withstand it too. There's just a few finicky Nep species that I can't really grow outside of a terrarium, but for the most part all the hybrids I've ever grown are ok just grown in 'window sill' conditions.

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    New plants came in today!

    Song of Melancholy x veitchii
    IMG_20200905_135449

    After potting
    IMG_20200905_142235

    burkei x hamata
    IMG_20200905_140431

    After potting
    IMG_20200905_142245

    The burkei x hamata looks a little rough in comparison, but it did take 6 days for the plants to make it here in the heat.

    Whenever I get a new plant I'm not 100% familiar with, I usually order their recommended potting mix at the same time. I figure there's a chance the plant will undergo a little less stress if it can go back to growing in a medium it's used to. Maybe it just makes me feel better though. Next repotting, I'll switch it up to something I know a little better, if I feel comfortable with how the plant is doing.

    I was breaking down the mix that came with this order, mixing it up and getting it very hydrated, and I noticed an old pitcher mixed in with the potting mix (not in with the plant itself).
    IMG_20200905_141240

    There's a good chance there was a bucket of medium near the bottom of the greenhouse, and during a pruning a pitcher randomly fell into it. But still seemed a little odd.

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