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    Hi,

    Tony you are right, it is my N. hamata from Andreas - so it took only about one hour after sending him those pics to him, and my phone did ring. - Four days later his first aid package did arrive :-)

    Interesting comment on the selection of clones you made Rob. Of course the faster growing ones will reach a "sellable" size first. But are these faster growing ones also the clones which would win the competition in the wild? I hope you do also sell the slower ones, so not everybody does grow the exact same clone (like it seems to be with N. rajah, where only four different clones are around). At least if you want to get rid of the slower N. argentii ones, I might help you out

    Joachim

    P.S.: I do believe the 20cm+ N. macrophylla pitcher on Martin's photo originates from a plant, Johannes Marabini does cultivate for about 19 years by now. So patience is for sure one of the major keys, to get a nice big N. macrophylla...

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    Joachim,

    There was a typo on my earlier mail where I said we have about 2 clones in sterile culture, I meant to type 20. Sure some will be slower growing than others. It doesn't make commercial sense to keep slow growing clones unless they have some different color characteristics. However, if it's a unique species or one that is threatened in the wild, I keep as many clones as possible, figuring that it may be important someday.

    Everyone has the same 4 clones of N. rajah because Greg Redwood at Kew gave away 4 clones in the 1980's and they have been circulating ever since
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    does that mean I can't send someone frozen pollen to pollinate someone elses rajah?because there all the same clones? does that mean someone would have to get one from a store in malaysia that is a diff clone and take the pollen from THAT one to propagate the ones here? I don't understand...and I think you guys don't know what I'm talking about, because I explain everything so...so...BAD sorry, guys/girls

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    which people got the 4 clones? how could someone tell what clone there plant came from if there are 20 of them around. which and who as the original plant?
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    Rob is saying that the great majority of the N. rajah that are out there for sale are made up of 4 different clones. These are the only ones that have been available for a long long time. Only recently within the past year or so have plants grown from seed or from Robs 20 different clones, also started from seed, become available on the market.

    Some nurseries and suppliers know which clones are which and keep them labelled and identified.. others don't.

    Spect73.. not sure just what your asking. If you had two N. rajah, one female and one male you could cross pollinate them.

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    tony thanks for the info. is there a way to tell if your plant is a m/f or do i have to wait till the plant flowers to tell what sex it is ?
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    You can only tell when it flowers. Unless it is a plant from one that has already flowered and the sex is known.
    Clones are kept in tissue culture for many many years. It is quite possible that the tiny seedling you could purchase today is also a large flowering plant in someone elses collection. When new clones from tissue culture become available though there will be a delay, while the first plants out of the lab mature, before sex is known. Primarily because the different clones in tissue culture are started from seed not from already mature plants. However because the odds are pretty much 50/50 male/female, 3 or 4 different clones gives a pretty good shot at getting one of each.
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    I might add that the Rajah I got from Catalani and originated from you Rob is VERY vigorous! I am extremly please with it and must say it is just like Hamata, a weed!

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