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Thinking about getting new neps

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I'm thinking about getting a N. northiana, N. lowii, and a N. sibuyanensis(sp?). Can anyone give info on how to grow them? Like the plant size, growing difficulty, and any special requirement? I already checked out the Plants With Attitude web site, but i want to know a bit more.
 
Also, is it posssible to slowly acclimate my highland plants, including the ones that i'm going to get, to growing on a windowsill? Can I put N lowii in the fridge until it gets too big at night? my fridge is around 40 degrees or can it stand 65 degreese at night.
 
Sure you could put them in the fridge. I used to put mine in a styrafoam box in the fride on hot summer nights. Lowii won't be big for a long while.
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Maybe in 2-3 years t may be big enough to bring around space issues but plan for a tiny plant.
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Northiana would be best in a hot,wet lowland tank. Sibuyanensis, is a highlander and would grow well with N.lowii. You could adapt the lowii and sibuyanensis to your well-lit windwosill if you house is cool at night (65F and less) but northiana couldn't be easily or well adapted, it does best in high humidity and hot evironments.
 
NepG, wasn't there a big thread about stuffing your neps in a fridge some time ago?

It seems to me it fell under the "Not reccomended" catergory...
 
I monitored the styrafoam box temperature via the remote thermometer and it didn't get below 50F. The styrafoam insulates against the cold for a while but eventually the air temp equals that of the fridge and the temp did drop to a local 45 overnight. The plants loves it with growth spurts and pitcher production however.
 
if you are going to put the plants in the refrig. i recomend that you place a zip lock bag over them to hold in the humidity. the evap. of the refrig will take the humidity out of the air that is in the refrig.

speaking of N.lowii i finally got another one that is actually grow and looks really healthy.
 
I live on the west coast so the nights are pretty cool. Could i very, very slowly adapt them(not the N.northiana of course)to growing outside, like over a period of maybe 2 months? I already adapted a N. alata to the window sill along with about ten tropicals(gingers, orchids etc.) and it's growing great(and it made a new pitcher) even with the humidity being around 40% most of the time.
 
@nepenthes gracilis

Plant names are N. lowii, N. sibuyananensis and N. northiana. There is nothing like a "Lowii", etc. ...

You did write:

Sibuyanensis, is a highlander and would grow well with N.lowii. You could adapt the lowii and sibuyanensis to your well-lit windwosill if you house is cool at night (65F and less)

This is just plain wrong! N. lowii as well as N. sibuyanensis do need high humidity to pitcher and grow well. I won't even recommend N. sibuyanensis as beginners plant.

Dustin, you do have no experience in growing N. sibuyananensis at all and you do only have very minimal experience in growing N. lowii. Why do you try to fool others giving wrong advice on cultivating these plants?

This easily leads to others badly harming or even loosing their plants. Keep in mind, these are plants which do also cost a considerable amount of money. - An amount of money, some of the members of PFT have to save their money for some months for!

Joachim
 
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Oh dear!  Joachim is right of course about trying to adapt N. lowii or N. sibuyanensis to windowsill conditions unless your house is so humid that there is condensation on the walls!  They need lots of light but direct sunlight through a window in low humidity is death.  I have no idea if those plants originally came from my nursery, but it's rather likely considering the species and it's also sad thought to me that all those years of effort taken to produce them may result in extreme highland plants being put on a windowsill.  True, I've been paid for them somewhere along the line, but I love these plants.   N. lowii will never respond to anything other than extreme care; it's a Specialist's species in every sense of the word.  The very, very few people who have ever seen upper pitchers of N. lowii in cultivation will tell you how difficult it has been to achieve such a feat. Jeff Schafer is the only person I know who has managed to do this in basement conditions without the benefit of a greenhouse.  Jeff is a meticulous scientist and he would tell you that it takes time, dedication, and yes, unfortunately money too.

N. sibuyanensis is fairly vigorous, but doesn't pitcher well unless it's quite happy with it's surroundings which certainly would not include a dometic windowsill!

Please remember that most Nepenthes are actually quite hard to kill, they hang a in there as best they can waiting for conditions to improve as they sometimes are forced to do in habitat after fire or drought.  However, when a juvenile plant (and these are juvenile plants we're talking about) goes into decline, it's awfully hard to turn it around.

Carcinos, if you manage turn N. lowii into a windowsill plant in a temperate country, you'll be making history.  Please don't try it unless you are happy to purchase more plants later, or simply don't care!
 
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Joachim wrote:

"Plant names are N. lowii, N. sibuyananensis and N. northiana. There is nothing like a "Lowii", etc. ..."

Actually, you are both wrong. Since you didn't put the names in itallics, you need to underline them, otherwise you are making just as big a mistake.

But we all understood both of you.

Regards
Tim
 
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Hey, Joachim what is the difference? Sure you could adapt it I never said it would grow or pitcher well but it could be done. Thank You.
 
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I don't like the direction this thread is going. The original question has been answered, so lets leave it at that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and several have been given.

Tony
 
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