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Hi All,

Thanks for you patience, I hope the wait is worth your while.

Early in January, I received a PM from Guenter Seiter of Austria asking me to guide him and his German pal Sven Wartner to Genting. They wanted to see the nepenthes of Sabah, Sarawak and Peninsular Malaysia in March.

I agreed, provided they get me a cephalotus and also give me a digital copy of the pictures they took.

They arrived in Kuala Lumpur on 18 March, after spending 2 weeks in Borneo. Late that afternoon, I took them to Bukit Antarabangsa to look for lowland N. sanguinea. The place that I knew had N. gracilis and N. mirabilis have been fenced up for a housing project. We searched the nearby hills but found only one N. gracilis plant. But they were more fascinated by the howling Silverleaf monkeys.

Early next morning we drove to Genting Highlands. GH is about 45 minutes by car from KL. Our first stop was Bukit Antarabangsa which is 11km from GH. There we found N. mirablis, N. gracilis and N. sanguinea growing together. The pitchers from this mirablis are much bigger than the lowland variety.

We then backtracked to GH. We stopped at Awana. At 1000m, it is full of N. sanguinea. Guenter and Sven were really excited. There must be few hundreds of them. N. gracilis is also found here. But we managed to find only one N. ramispina plant. After two hours, we found no N. sanguinea seeds. We did find a very big 'mama' sanguinea which have alot of seedlings and a N. gracilis with pitchers close to 20cm. I took a cutting and hope it will grow. Interestingly, the mama plant and the big N. gracilis plant are found on wet and soggy area.

We broke for lunch at Gohtong Jaya. For two person who don't eat Chinese in their homelands, they really enjoyed the spicy lunch.

It was after three-thirty when we got up to G. Ulu Kali. The summit of Genting is now a sprawling entertainment/theme-park/hotel/casino complex. Much of the mossy forest that I used to know is gone. By the time we got to the spot that we were tipped to have N. ramispina and N. macfarlanei heavy rain fell. While waiting for the thunderstorm to clear we shared notes on the growing of nepenthes. They told me they were impressed with the nursery facilities at Malesiana Tropicals. But equally, with all the experts working for them, they also saw MT lost alot of plants!

It was 5 o' clock when we were deciding whether to leave or stay, the rain eased to light drizzles. We put on our raincoats to explore the area. We weren't disappointed. Just about 50 m where we parked our car, we found N. ramispina. And then there is a whole cliff-face of N. ramispina. Just like a little nursery. As we moved deeper into the trail, we found more N. ramispina, its hybids and then N. marfarlanei. All these are at ground level. Further in we also found a number of N. sanguinea. In many cases, these plants are growing side by side. There are adult plants and there are tiny seedlings.

We keep looking for plants with seeds. We found many plants with flowers. There are a few places that have both male and female plants growing side by side. By the end of the trail, Guenter and Sven managed to find seeds from two N. sanguinea, one N. ramispina and one hybrid plants. By seven-thirty, we called it a day. Guenter and Sven were happy that they managed to see the three endemic nepenthes and collected seeds from two. They made me promised to collect seeds for them in a few months time.

The rain and the fading light didn't give us much chance to photograph the plants. But I did return twice to photograph the plants, once to watch a performance of Beijing Chinese Opera with my family and another to send my daughter and her friends to attend a pop concert.

This site at 1645m with so many plants is currently secured. But for how long? Just about 200 m away is a condominium. And there are many development works nearby. The place offers a very grand view. My bet is in another ten years this place will be developed and the plants will be gone!

This N. ramispina is found only about 50 m where we parked our car.
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N. ramispina found at the nearby cliff-face. Note the seedlings nearby.
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Another N. ramispina found on ground level. Note the black coloration.
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Intermediate pitcher, N. ramispina
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Upper pitcher, mostly green in colour
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N. macfarlanei at the base of cliff-face. Note the decaying plant matters gathered around the plant. Often the pitchers are buried in the humus.
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A fully formed lower pitcher and a juvenile pitcher of N. macfarlanei. Generally, the pitchers here are smaller then those I saw in Gunung Brinchang.
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Upper pitcher, N. macfarlanei
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Side profile of another upper pitcher, N. macfarlanei.
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TO BE CONTINUED (picture restrictions)
 
Rest of pixs

A red-leafed N. sanguinea. Note the hidden N. macfarlanei pitchers.
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Another variation of N. sanguinea. This is the type you get from most nurseries.
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This is a real beauty. I only found this last weekend. It measured at 32 long, with the mouth at 11cm wide!
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Another beauty. Upper pitcher of unidentified species or hybrid
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This upper pitcher is 22cm long
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N. macfarlanei X N. sanguinea hybrid?
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Upper pitcher, N. sanguinea X N. ramispina
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N. macfarlanei X N. ramispina (?)
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N. macfarlanei X N. ramispina
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Hope you enjoyed the photos. When I get the pixs from Sven, I will publish them.

Choong
 
WOW! those are some great pictures! I wish my Sanguinea was that big!
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Wow! Choong, thank you for posting this. What a treat!

Capslock
 
Holy mackeral! Nice photos!
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Great pics.  I really like the N. ramispina.  Are they available here in the U.S.?
Anybody got them for sale or trade?
 
Choong,

In a past PM, We decided it was unfeasable to mail seed from you to the US because of regulations(protected in Malaysia, correct?). I assume the German's had some form of permision to collect seed?
The pics were fantastic! I have asked this for years: Why is the one you noted as the most common form of N. sanguinea available(you are right about that), well, the most common one? Why can't somebody get those ginat red beauties into tc? The only person I have ever seen offer them for sale is Geoff Mansell, and very rarely.
Oh, I never knew that N. ramispina could be a cliff grower like that. That is really cool.

Regards,

Joe
 
  • #10
Thanks for the great photos...
/ Tomas
 
  • #12
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Quote[/b] (Lauderdale @ April 13 2004,10:23)]Great pics.  I really like the N. ramispina.  Are they available here in the U.S.?
Anybody got them for sale or trade?
N. ramispina is available and not overly expensive. Not sure how well it would do Florida though.

Fantastic pics! Really neat to see them clinging to the rock like that

Griffin there are red/purple N. sanguinea around. Unfortunately as you mention the best bet for getting one is by cutting of a known plant.

Tony
 
  • #13
You wouldn't happen to have a cutting of one, would you, Tony?
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  • #14
Thanks guys for the many compliments.

First, I would appeal to the administrator of this forum to remove the restriction on the number of photos a writer can put in his article. If I can bypass the restriction by adding photos as replies, then why bother! Besides, if a writer goes to the trouble to take photos, have them scanned (if he doesn't own a digital camera) and edited, and then uploaded to photo storage site, surely this guy deserves to be seen or heard.

I am glad you enjoyed the photos. I too enjoyed the many articles and photos you guys put out. By showing plants in their natural habitat, you can appreciate how the plants live and maybe will help you in your growing of the plants. For example, there is the perennial debate as to whether the neps will benefit from fertilizer and rich soil. Well, if you look at the organic matters trapped around the plants, I am sure the plants do benefit from the decaying matters.

Yes, snowfalcon I did get my cephalotus. They sent me one by express mail. I am surprised that the custom did not open the very well packed parcel. I am sure the Australian or the US custom will not miss it with their scanners.

If you like the N.ramispina from the photos, wait until you see some of the actual black beauties growing in the wild. Some I estimated to be between 15 to 20 cm tall. Even my wife was awed by their beauty.

Well Joe (The Griffin), I think there is a misunderstanding about sending of seeds. There is no ban on them from our Malaysian government, after all these nepenthes are not listed as endangered species. My concern is at your end.

As to why they don't sell you those big red beauties (sanguinea), my guess is, it has to do with the luck in the collection of seeds. I was told TC can only be propagated thru seeds. As you see, we went thru two sites with well over few hundreds N. sanguinea and only managed to collect from one plant! That is why N. klossii is still not available in the market. Besides, the red variety is scarcer.

Overall, I enjoyed showing the duo this part of my country. It is international camaraderie. In Guenter and Sven, I realised that I am not crazy afterall. They are like me, a familyman, who have to spend the free time with their wives, kids and nepenthes.

Choong
 
  • #15
My understanding of mailing seeds, is that there is no problem unless it's N. rajah or N. khasiana. This is via communication with one of the USDA guys that investigated me.

Regards,

Joe
 
  • #16
Really??.... Anyone willing to stick their neck out for a trial run?
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SF
 
  • #17
I am not afraid(brave words for a guy who was fined $2500).
If you declare what they are , they can't nail you for smuggling(in my case, the sender did not wait for my import papers and wrote "children's toys" on the box). I also have an import permit, but if you do all these things, I think the worse they can do is just confescate them.

joe
 
  • #18
I'm in
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Just send the seeds to the kid next door, and have them bring them to me
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The reason you can only post 10 pictures at a time is so you dont overload the server, it can only take so many pictures at a time before it freezes, that is why you must post only 10 at a time
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  • #19
Interesting....This one:
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Looks very much like a plant I have that's labeled as pure macfarlenei....
Here's my plant:
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  • #20
Schloaty,

I think it's dead ringer for yours, except for the plant size.

Regards,

Joe
 
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