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Mealy bugs and nepenthes
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I've seen whitefly and plenty of it and to me, Capslock doesn't have whitefly. Whitefly lays their eggs underneath the leaves. They also form those "spirally, circular" white lines on the underside of the leaf. That's the first clue for whitefly. Then when the infestation gets worse, you get the white silky threads that look like spider webs. The eggs are usually in the middle of the cobweb mess under the leaf.
As for mealy bug, I've only seen them infest my Sarracenias in the crowns. I've never seen little white "eggs" like Caplock's on the leaves. When my orchids get mealybug, I always see the baby guys, but never those white eggs so I have no idea what Capslock has on his leaves.
Just my take on those lovely little parasitic gems we have here in So. Cal!!
Joel
Nepenthes Around the House
As for mealy bug, I've only seen them infest my Sarracenias in the crowns. I've never seen little white "eggs" like Caplock's on the leaves. When my orchids get mealybug, I always see the baby guys, but never those white eggs so I have no idea what Capslock has on his leaves.
Just my take on those lovely little parasitic gems we have here in So. Cal!!
Joel
Nepenthes Around the House
No, I got some in a shipment of neps from Hawaii, lol.
And from all this duscussion, it's still a mystery pest. I think the "alien" theory is still leading.
I think the closest guess is whitefly, as there are no mealy bugs around (I know what those look like.) But as Joel points out, I don't get have some of the telltale signs.
Again, WHAT ARE THESE FOUL BEASTS
Capslock
And from all this duscussion, it's still a mystery pest. I think the "alien" theory is still leading.
I think the closest guess is whitefly, as there are no mealy bugs around (I know what those look like.) But as Joel points out, I don't get have some of the telltale signs.
Again, WHAT ARE THESE FOUL BEASTS
Capslock
Max,
Clean the whitefly off as we described and you won't have the problem anymore.
Whitefly looks exactly as pictured in your photo. Our Florida Dept of Agriculture inspector has had many discussions with us regarding those little beasts and has given us the same instructions to eliminate them which we passed on to you. Yes, they hide on the undersides of leaves, but they can also be on the top and along the stems, and the tendrils and pitchers. We would take a pic of them, but (he said smugly) we have the problem under control.
Clean the whitefly off as we described and you won't have the problem anymore.
Whitefly looks exactly as pictured in your photo. Our Florida Dept of Agriculture inspector has had many discussions with us regarding those little beasts and has given us the same instructions to eliminate them which we passed on to you. Yes, they hide on the undersides of leaves, but they can also be on the top and along the stems, and the tendrils and pitchers. We would take a pic of them, but (he said smugly) we have the problem under control.
Ok, I think I figured out what they are. I think I've seen theese on palm trees outside my apartment. It appears, that they are indeed a type of whitefly, but not the typical. Theese flies are very tiny, and would probably be passed off as specs of dust. Very tiny. This is why we dont see the adults. The indeed lay there eggs in white cases which build up on the leaves. They dont seem to cause much harm to the plant itself, although the infected organs will eventualy shows minor symptoms. The problem with theese is that their egg cases become very unslightly. The trees around here are so badly infected, thick layers of white crud can be seen beneath and ontop of the leaves. It's disgusting. I now know that this pest should be treated as other species of whitefly. Remember, the adults are very tiny, and look like mere specs of dust floating in the air. MYSTERY SOLVED
Hello everyone,
I'm yet to have a insects problem on a healthy Nepenthes, but a cutting or newly arrived plants that took shipping a little ruff seem to attract a whole slue of little beasties. I have try just about everything including...
Beneficial insects such as...
Aphidius colemani
Aphidoletes aphidimyza
Hippodamia convergens
Chrysopa carnea
Phytoseiulus persimilis
Encarsia formosa
Tenodera aridifolia sinensis
I tried a few different soaps with mix success.
A stream of water did not really do a who lot for me.
Submerged the plant in water for a few day, seemed to rot the plant more then anything.
Vinegar did ok, and a whole bunch of other home remedies and other insecticides that aren't worth repeating.
The Encarsia formosa really did a pretty good job with the white fly.
The larger insects got eaten by the plants to fast for them to do any good.
So far the only thing that has really work for me is this stuff called Hi-Yield Diazinon 4E Insect Spray. Now this stuff is very strong I only need to use about 2 to 3 applications a year. Whenever I use it I wear a painters mask and gloves. After I'm done spraying I wont go in the GH for the rest of the day. I just mix it in a spray bottle and spray it on anything that looks unusual. I have used it on every type of CP and it does great on everything but Pings, it burns the leaves.
thanks
-Jeremiah-
I'm yet to have a insects problem on a healthy Nepenthes, but a cutting or newly arrived plants that took shipping a little ruff seem to attract a whole slue of little beasties. I have try just about everything including...
Beneficial insects such as...
Aphidius colemani
Aphidoletes aphidimyza
Hippodamia convergens
Chrysopa carnea
Phytoseiulus persimilis
Encarsia formosa
Tenodera aridifolia sinensis
I tried a few different soaps with mix success.
A stream of water did not really do a who lot for me.
Submerged the plant in water for a few day, seemed to rot the plant more then anything.
Vinegar did ok, and a whole bunch of other home remedies and other insecticides that aren't worth repeating.
The Encarsia formosa really did a pretty good job with the white fly.
The larger insects got eaten by the plants to fast for them to do any good.
So far the only thing that has really work for me is this stuff called Hi-Yield Diazinon 4E Insect Spray. Now this stuff is very strong I only need to use about 2 to 3 applications a year. Whenever I use it I wear a painters mask and gloves. After I'm done spraying I wont go in the GH for the rest of the day. I just mix it in a spray bottle and spray it on anything that looks unusual. I have used it on every type of CP and it does great on everything but Pings, it burns the leaves.
thanks
-Jeremiah-
Okay! If we're getting into the nuclear phase here's what I use. Ortho Systemic insect Killer. I mix it per instructions which is 3 tblspoons per gallon of water. That stuff kills whitefly, mealybug, aphids, and anything else that I feel like anihilating. It's good with orchids too because it doesn't ruin the flower. I love the stuff. Put it in a spray bottle and have at it!! So far the stuff has had no ill-effect on any of my Neps or Sarracenias. Good stuff!
Joel
Joel
lol,
Yeah, it's pretty much available at any home center or nursery. Excellent stuff. I too had a neighbor with hibiscus plants and banana trees that were dripping with whitefly. They would always find their way to my plants. However the flies only attacked my plumeria and salvias. Never my CPs. I kept up on spraying off the eggs with the hose and using the chemicals as sparingly as possible. For the most part it got rid of them. Once you know what plants these guys attack, then be vigilant and your problem should go away or at least be controlled.
Joel
Nepenthes Around the House
Yeah, it's pretty much available at any home center or nursery. Excellent stuff. I too had a neighbor with hibiscus plants and banana trees that were dripping with whitefly. They would always find their way to my plants. However the flies only attacked my plumeria and salvias. Never my CPs. I kept up on spraying off the eggs with the hose and using the chemicals as sparingly as possible. For the most part it got rid of them. Once you know what plants these guys attack, then be vigilant and your problem should go away or at least be controlled.
Joel
Nepenthes Around the House
Diazinon is great, but it has been removed from shelves in Florida. I still have a secret stash that I use on outdoor plants like Brugmansia, Alocasia, Coleus.
we pot drench the Sarracenia a few times a year with Orthene WP. I use about half a tablespoon to the gallon and it kills all pests. Unfortunately, it stinks. Everything, including the greenhouse: the Neps, orchids, Hoyas, forked sundews and my pet Pinguicula gigantea, get Talstar sprayed every six weeks.
we pot drench the Sarracenia a few times a year with Orthene WP. I use about half a tablespoon to the gallon and it kills all pests. Unfortunately, it stinks. Everything, including the greenhouse: the Neps, orchids, Hoyas, forked sundews and my pet Pinguicula gigantea, get Talstar sprayed every six weeks.
