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A couple....hundred questions
- Thread starter ChronoKiento
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Read this thread:
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum....start=0
Scroll down untill you find U.gibba.
Is that peat I see in the bottom of the container?
Is the water evaporated?
Are those flowers I see when the water is evaporated in Summer?
So please dont tell me Im wrong, I know what Im talking about.
PM that person if you still dont believe me.
Dino
P.S
No hard feelings.
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum....start=0
Scroll down untill you find U.gibba.
Is that peat I see in the bottom of the container?
Is the water evaporated?
Are those flowers I see when the water is evaporated in Summer?
So please dont tell me Im wrong, I know what Im talking about.
PM that person if you still dont believe me.
Dino
P.S
No hard feelings.
Clint
Stay chooned in for more!
Did i say no peat? no i said you should use it.[b said:Quote[/b] (Starman @ Aug. 27 2004,5:10)]Read this thread:
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum....start=0
Scroll down untill you find U.gibba.
Is that peat I see in the bottom of the container?
Is the water evaporated?
Are those flowers I see when the water is evaporated in Summer?
So please dont tell me Im wrong, I know what Im talking about.
PM that person if you still dont believe me.
Dino
P.S
No hard feelings.
does all the water evaporate in the wild? aren't we supposed to be copying the natural environment? no and yes
if you let "all the water" evaporate, there would be dead utrics.
Pm. me if you want, i know what i'm talking about.
so please research in several places before you post.
P.S. No hard feelings
If the peat stays wet, they are O.K, if it doesnt dry out, U.gibba wont flower(Im not talking about other species) I have seen pictures of U.gibba in the wild when it is flowering, and there is always little or no water, I have never seen one flowering when there is lots of water around it.
Why dont you PM Rob-Rah and ask him?
Look on CPUK, there have been pictures posted of U.gibba with NO water at all, but the plant was resting on wet peat. I do know what Im talking about in this one. If the peat is WET=live Utrics. If the peat is DRY=dead Utrics.
All the water evaporates in the wild, and U.gibba turns into a bog plant for the summer, if this doesnt happen, it doesnt flower.
P.S
No hard feelings.
Why dont you PM Rob-Rah and ask him?
Look on CPUK, there have been pictures posted of U.gibba with NO water at all, but the plant was resting on wet peat. I do know what Im talking about in this one. If the peat is WET=live Utrics. If the peat is DRY=dead Utrics.
All the water evaporates in the wild, and U.gibba turns into a bog plant for the summer, if this doesnt happen, it doesnt flower.
P.S
No hard feelings.
Yes, and sometimes it is easy to generalize from a few specifics!
I have grown U. gibba both ways, and mine flowered under both conditions, This may have been an exception to the rule but there are many such exceptions in the CP universe which is why it is best to keep an open mind as to the possibilities and to experiment.
I have grown U. gibba both ways, and mine flowered under both conditions, This may have been an exception to the rule but there are many such exceptions in the CP universe which is why it is best to keep an open mind as to the possibilities and to experiment.
I'll wade in as that was my posting being linked to above.....
U. gibba (as we seem to be concentrating on that species) is also reluctant to flower unless it has formed quite a dense mat of growth. A young comparatively sparse plant wil be unlikely to flower if given the water evaporation treatment.
My suggested growing method is based on what I do, what I have seen from plants growing in the wild, and my interpretation of the function of the plants morphology (which I explained a little in the algae/gibba thread here on PFT). It also appears to fairly foolproof, which is why I peddle it so much!
But I'll bet that you had a healthy and dense wad of growth in the floating flowerer? The bits of plant at the middle/top of a dense wadge of floating stolons would find themselves in similar conditions to a plant left in/on a sludgy substrate.
Other utrics may want completely different circumstances. Plants like U. inflata have clearly adapted themselves for flowering in deep water. And I have seen plants of U. intermedia (not a certain ID, but probable) in the wild in places that do dry out in the summer, and the plant retained moisture amongst its leaves a little like seaweed. However it wasn't in flower becuase of this!
As Tamlin indicates, there is no rule, just a set of guides and experiments. A plant so finely adapted that it specifically requires x, y and z, but not a, b and c is unlikely to do very well in the field. They are living things like people. Sometimes things are right and sometimes they are wrong, but you can't duplicate any situation so perfectly to reproduce the rightness or wrongness exactly. If growing CPs was as simple as cooking a microwave-meal then we would all just buy the instruction manual then sit back and do something else with our lives (like growing orchids and proteas!
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Cheers.
Rob.
[b said:
U. gibba (as we seem to be concentrating on that species) is also reluctant to flower unless it has formed quite a dense mat of growth. A young comparatively sparse plant wil be unlikely to flower if given the water evaporation treatment.
My suggested growing method is based on what I do, what I have seen from plants growing in the wild, and my interpretation of the function of the plants morphology (which I explained a little in the algae/gibba thread here on PFT). It also appears to fairly foolproof, which is why I peddle it so much!
[b said:
But I'll bet that you had a healthy and dense wad of growth in the floating flowerer? The bits of plant at the middle/top of a dense wadge of floating stolons would find themselves in similar conditions to a plant left in/on a sludgy substrate.
Other utrics may want completely different circumstances. Plants like U. inflata have clearly adapted themselves for flowering in deep water. And I have seen plants of U. intermedia (not a certain ID, but probable) in the wild in places that do dry out in the summer, and the plant retained moisture amongst its leaves a little like seaweed. However it wasn't in flower becuase of this!
As Tamlin indicates, there is no rule, just a set of guides and experiments. A plant so finely adapted that it specifically requires x, y and z, but not a, b and c is unlikely to do very well in the field. They are living things like people. Sometimes things are right and sometimes they are wrong, but you can't duplicate any situation so perfectly to reproduce the rightness or wrongness exactly. If growing CPs was as simple as cooking a microwave-meal then we would all just buy the instruction manual then sit back and do something else with our lives (like growing orchids and proteas!
Cheers.
Rob.
Clint
Stay chooned in for more!
U. gibba, at least from the pictures I've seen, all look really nasty, except when thier in the wild, I think I'm gonna let 'em stay over there
heres what I'm talking 'bout, Click here
heres what I'm talking 'bout, Click here
