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    This is something I've been curious about as this past winter was unusually warm, and it didn't seem worth the risk to put my terrarium they reside in outside for it (since Vegas sun usually equals death to any CPs here). Because of this, none of my VFTs were put into dormancy, and they're looking pretty scraggily and sad right now.

    I'm tempted to let them ride until next winter, but I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to force a dormancy with them via the fridge method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fygee View Post
    This is something I've been curious about as this past winter was unusually warm, and it didn't seem worth the risk to put my terrarium they reside in outside for it (since Vegas sun usually equals death to any CPs here). Because of this, none of my VFTs were put into dormancy, and they're looking pretty scraggily and sad right now.

    I'm tempted to let them ride until next winter, but I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to force a dormancy with them via the fridge method.
    You might as well let them keep going. We're half way through the year now. IMHO not giving dormancy is a really bad idea. They need it. Follow nature.

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    It's worth experimenting with. I've read that in the absence of a dormancy, VFTs gradually etiolate and die eventually somewhere down the line. Whether it's within the next growing season or within several, I'm not sure.

    I've never tried skipping dormancy but I've read that you can. I've found random internet articles stating that light cues are really the main thing driving dormancy and that the cold isn't necessary. Thinking about it now, my D.binata multifida extrema goes dormant whenever it feels like it seemingly in complete absence of any cues. Maybe dormancy isn't as sharply necessary as people make it out to be. Like an old wives tale of carnivorous plant husbandry.

    If someone tries it it and the plant dies; Lowes stocks flytraps every season from bug biting plants. They're only 5 bucks and 90% of those end up in the trash from neglect by store. Most of what you see in box stores are basically tissue cultured clones from some proto-mother plant. In essence, the the original plant's genes have essentially been immortalized and dispersed to every Lowes in the country so it's not like anything is truly lost if the plant dies, except maybe 5 bucks and little pride/effort...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyr View Post
    Not sure I buy this but I have heard someone say that they only require longer dark nights and not cold. I'm not believing it as it does get cold down where they come from.
    It's my understanding that the photoperiod is the primary dormancy driver as well

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    I've been growing some under lights for eight or so years that I got from Ivan Snyder who was growing them under lights. They've been grown under lights maybe close to 15-20 years total. All year round, no sequestering to the refrigerator. They grow better than the ones I leave outdoors all year round. And contrary to most opinion they do not need insane levels of light. I'm just using two T12 and two T5 24 inch tubes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    I've been growing some under lights for eight or so years that I got from Ivan Snyder who was growing them under lights. They've been grown under lights maybe close to 15-20 years total. All year round, no sequestering to the refrigerator. They grow better than the ones I leave outdoors all year round. And contrary to most opinion they do not need insane levels of light. I'm just using two T12 and two T5 24 inch tubes.
    What is the winter temperature you keep them at? And length of time of the light they get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    I've been growing some under lights for eight or so years that I got from Ivan Snyder who was growing them under lights. They've been grown under lights maybe close to 15-20 years total. All year round, no sequestering to the refrigerator. They grow better than the ones I leave outdoors all year round. And contrary to most opinion they do not need insane levels of light. I'm just using two T12 and two T5 24 inch tubes.
    Interesting. Do they flower? If so, when? All at the same time? How much seed and do you know how viable it is?

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    I do rather wonder if this is simply true across the board for any vft, or if it is a case of tolerance/cold dormancy variation across the population. In which case, those vfts which are not as tolerant or truly require a chilly dormancy die off in areas like Florida but those which, due to their particular genetic make up, happen to be more heat tolerant or require less of a typical dormancy survive and proliferate.

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