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Huge traps!
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While this is may be true, I have no way of verifying I got a huge VFT. From the trap size (the determining factor IMO), it looks just like a regular sized Green Dragon to me. The length of the petioles does not seem to vary much to me (they are curved more so they don't stick past the edge of the pot as much). Comparing the coloration of mine to Capslock, it appears his is a little more green. His petioles look a little more circular, while mine appear more heart shaped. While this all can vary, its hard to say 'Yes, thats definately a huge trap producing plant...with just normal sized traps.' Reminds me of the Simpson's quote "The mythological two-headed hound. Born with only.. one head!"
What it comes down to me is that we can all agree Capslock's is one of the largest green dragons we've seen, while mine (and D muscipula's) don't appear significantly different than the average green dragon (using the 3 known green dragons bare roots for comparison).
vft guy in SJ
VFT and Drosera lover
You know....
I rarely chime in on these sort of things.
But do you people realize how silly you are beginning to sound!
First off, let me say.. that I appreciate you being customers.
HOWEVER... let's get real. Lynda announced that we had larger green dragons... they were shipped by order received. Not to mention, that very few people paid any sort of premium... only a couple people paid $1.00 extra... and that was for huge plants. I believe capslock was one of them.
If you feel like *WE* take advantage of you... try shopping at some of these other stores.
We sent what lynda advertised. You got the biggest stuff we had to send at the time.
Jeez... and they're larger than most of the plants we send out at this time of year.
Incredible.
We try to do something nice... and offer up these big plants... and you people are talking about being taken advantage of?!
Pardon my lack of diplomacy... but this is just irritating beyond belief.
Remind me to never do anything like this again.
The few of you who complained ruined it for everyone in the future.. when we have nice sized plants.
Note to self: Don't do anyone any favors.
-Phillip
I rarely chime in on these sort of things.
But do you people realize how silly you are beginning to sound!
First off, let me say.. that I appreciate you being customers.
HOWEVER... let's get real. Lynda announced that we had larger green dragons... they were shipped by order received. Not to mention, that very few people paid any sort of premium... only a couple people paid $1.00 extra... and that was for huge plants. I believe capslock was one of them.
If you feel like *WE* take advantage of you... try shopping at some of these other stores.
We sent what lynda advertised. You got the biggest stuff we had to send at the time.
Jeez... and they're larger than most of the plants we send out at this time of year.
Incredible.
We try to do something nice... and offer up these big plants... and you people are talking about being taken advantage of?!
Pardon my lack of diplomacy... but this is just irritating beyond belief.
Remind me to never do anything like this again.
The few of you who complained ruined it for everyone in the future.. when we have nice sized plants.
Note to self: Don't do anyone any favors.
-Phillip
vft guy in SJ
VFT and Drosera lover
Phil,
MOST of us are very appreciative of all the offers you have made. PLEASE do not let one bad apple spoil the barrel. I for one have been extremely satisfied with all of my dealings with PFT and have always listed your company FIRST on the list when recommending places to buy plants. I sincerely hope that this particular incident will not effect your willingness to make offers available in the forums first.
Steve
MOST of us are very appreciative of all the offers you have made. PLEASE do not let one bad apple spoil the barrel. I for one have been extremely satisfied with all of my dealings with PFT and have always listed your company FIRST on the list when recommending places to buy plants. I sincerely hope that this particular incident will not effect your willingness to make offers available in the forums first.
Steve
Phillip,
It must be frustrating as #### to read things like this thread. I've been cringing for two days now seeing what's happened. But please don't let the unreasonable whining of just a few people spoil what was a fun and cool offer. I had no intention of buying any vfts before Lynda posted the offer. It was because you guys are cool, and because I am able to interact with the company here on the forums, and because of the very existence of these forums that I, and I'm sure many others, do business with you guys.
I participate on several forums on a number of topics, including my own business (you want to see ungrateful, ugly, immature, enraging forums, go to www. battle.net and look at the Diablo forums.) There are always people out there who complain no matter how much you do for them. In fact, it seems the more you do, the more they complain. However, if you can step back and distance yourself from the individuals who complain, you'll see that they are the distinct minority, and don't reflect the feelings of the vast majority.
I, for one, am grateful for both the forums and my fantastic, beautiful, and inexpensive new green dragon vfts.
Max Schaefer <-- Capslock
It must be frustrating as #### to read things like this thread. I've been cringing for two days now seeing what's happened. But please don't let the unreasonable whining of just a few people spoil what was a fun and cool offer. I had no intention of buying any vfts before Lynda posted the offer. It was because you guys are cool, and because I am able to interact with the company here on the forums, and because of the very existence of these forums that I, and I'm sure many others, do business with you guys.
I participate on several forums on a number of topics, including my own business (you want to see ungrateful, ugly, immature, enraging forums, go to www. battle.net and look at the Diablo forums.) There are always people out there who complain no matter how much you do for them. In fact, it seems the more you do, the more they complain. However, if you can step back and distance yourself from the individuals who complain, you'll see that they are the distinct minority, and don't reflect the feelings of the vast majority.
I, for one, am grateful for both the forums and my fantastic, beautiful, and inexpensive new green dragon vfts.
Max Schaefer <-- Capslock
NickHubbell
It’s a trap!
Just to let everyone know. The green dragons that I have purchased in the past (not this huge trap sale) have had traps that were less than 1/2" in length. It is very hard to get larger traps for the price that one paid for these plants.
The plants you got had larger traps that what is normally sold. They are just Green Dragons that are showing the age of a much older plant. They should be enjoyed, not thought of as "Not as big as I thought it was" plants.
Another thing to think about, I recently bought a Giant form of Venus Fltyrap (not from here), and my Red Dragon (from here) could have eaten the entire plant for dinner with just one of its traps. That Giant Flytrap was $30.00.
The plants you got had larger traps that what is normally sold. They are just Green Dragons that are showing the age of a much older plant. They should be enjoyed, not thought of as "Not as big as I thought it was" plants.
Another thing to think about, I recently bought a Giant form of Venus Fltyrap (not from here), and my Red Dragon (from here) could have eaten the entire plant for dinner with just one of its traps. That Giant Flytrap was $30.00.
Phil please don't get discouraged. I know everyone here appreciates all the time you and many others spend to make PFT such a nice place. It made me very sad to see some members complaining about the VFTs they received. I mean PFT was trying to do a nice thing for its members by giving us a heads up on some large VFTs they had. No where did they claim these were miracle plants or anything. They merely said that they were some of the largest trap VFTs they've had in awhile. I think the people who complained raised their expectations too high. I mean these are just fly traps! They don't get very big! Please everyone think about what you’re saying before you post!
-buckeye
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Thanks to those who have offered your support and are happy with the plants and services Phil provides! And sorry to those couple who may have been disappointed. We truly feel these plants were extremely nice for the price and I do know that even the ones which were a bit smaller than the huge trapped ones were beautiful, healthy, and a very good value. They are some of the nicest I have seen for awhile. Perhaps this is just subjective and while some people are impressed with an inch trap, others don't think it's all that. In any case.....I sure won't be giving my opinions much on plants anymore. Maybe I'm easily impressed. Perhaps in the future we'll just make a flat statement like "we now have _ available" and make no comments on how good they look or whatever. We were just trying to let people know how nice this particular batch of Green Dragons was (and is...we still have plenty left).
vft guy in SJ
VFT and Drosera lover
I believe it was Abe Lincoln who once said you can please some of the people all of the time, and you can please all of the people some of the the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. Well that was true 150 years ago when Abe said it.. it was true however long ago it was said before Abe heard it, and its still true today. Some people blow their expectations out of proportion, this is a fact, nothing can be done to prevent this. Nothing can be done to prevent people from failing to comprehend what is said and getting their hopes up on something imaginary that they concocted in their own minds. Personally I find it deplorable that people take these fabricated preconceptions into a public forum as a basis to bash the very people who go out of their way to provide a place such as this. But again what can you do? People have the right to voice their opinions no matter how rediculous or unfounded they are. Those of you who are #####ing about your plants, I urge you to read the original advertisement again and re-evaluate your ideas of what has been offered. If you still believe you have been "wronged" then take it up with PFT directly. As for me I will continue to sing the praises of PFT and the forums regardless of whatever bologna is spouted by the unhappy few.
Steve
Steve
Just to clarify something quickly...it wasn't really an advertisement....it was just a personal opinion. I do help out sometimes at PFT but I'm not a paid employee. I just saw these plants and thought they were special and thought I'd share that with everyone else. Bet Phil throws me off the forums for that one
BigCarnivourKid
It's been one of dem days
If he does I'll personall come to Texas and chew him out[b said:Quote[/b] (greenhouse1 @ Nov. 11 2003,9:35)]Bet Phil throws me off the forums for that one
Always wanted a good excuse to skip work and visit Exotic Gardens
Geez, now i feel crummy. All i was doing was posting a contrasting example to Caplocks truly huge-trapped plant. I'm sorry, my intent wasn't to complain or start a riot. I saw Caplocks pic and was excited about how nice the plant was, and was a bit let down when i saw mine. However, it is a nice-sized VFT, and at nice price for a non-typical VFT of any size, and i'm completely happy with my purchase. Please everyone, calm down.
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